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« on: June 01, 2012, 07:56:49 AM »

New York State Gov. Andrew Cuomo gets a 71 - 16 percent approval rating today, the highest score for an Empire State governor since Gov. George Pataki hit 81 - 12 percent in the wake of 9/11, and continuing Gov. Cuomo's year-long trend with the highest approval rating of any governor in the seven states surveyed by the Quinnipiac University poll.

Voters support 79 - 18 percent, including 61 - 34 percent among Republicans, raising the minimum wage, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

Cuomo's job approval is 68 - 20 percent among Republicans, 76 - 11 percent among Democrats and 69 - 19 percent among independent voters, 71 - 15 percent among Protestants, 71 - 18 percent among Catholics and 83 - 9 percent among Jews. There is no gender or racial gap. Approval is 68 - 19 percent upstate, 72 - 15 percent in New York City and 76 - 12 percent in the suburbs.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/new-york-state/release-detail?ReleaseID=1755
that poll is worthless when it comes to the Jews (it way underestimates Orthodox Jews like almost all these polls do)
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2012, 06:18:28 PM »

New York State Gov. Andrew Cuomo gets a 71 - 16 percent approval rating today, the highest score for an Empire State governor since Gov. George Pataki hit 81 - 12 percent in the wake of 9/11, and continuing Gov. Cuomo's year-long trend with the highest approval rating of any governor in the seven states surveyed by the Quinnipiac University poll.

Voters support 79 - 18 percent, including 61 - 34 percent among Republicans, raising the minimum wage, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University poll finds.

Cuomo's job approval is 68 - 20 percent among Republicans, 76 - 11 percent among Democrats and 69 - 19 percent among independent voters, 71 - 15 percent among Protestants, 71 - 18 percent among Catholics and 83 - 9 percent among Jews. There is no gender or racial gap. Approval is 68 - 19 percent upstate, 72 - 15 percent in New York City and 76 - 12 percent in the suburbs.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/new-york-state/release-detail?ReleaseID=1755
that poll is worthless when it comes to the Jews (it way underestimates Orthodox Jews like almost all these polls do)
Most Jews aren't Orthodox, so yeah....
according to thearda.com there are 588,500 Orthodox Jews in NY according to the Berman Institute there are 1,635,020 Jews in NY.

now learn math.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2012, 10:15:26 PM »

according to thearda.com there are 588,500 Orthodox Jews in NY

Here's a link that says 550,000-600,000 Orthodox Jews in all of North America.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-jewish-population.htm
http://www.thearda.com/rcms2010/r/s/36/rcms2010_36_state_name_2010.asp
Jews in NY
Orthodox Jews 588,500
Reform Jews 106,806
Conservative Jews 82,809
Reconstructionist Jews 5,991

next time look at the source of the "fact" you said it was only a letter to the editor in a magazine.
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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2012, 03:02:48 PM »

http://www.thearda.com/rcms2010/r/s/36/rcms2010_36_state_name_2010.asp
Jews in NY
Orthodox Jews 588,500
Reform Jews 106,806
Conservative Jews 82,809
Reconstructionist Jews 5,991

next time look at the source of the "fact" you said it was only a letter to the editor in a magazine.

Quick question.

Do you believe there are only 190,000 non-Orthodox Jews in the state of New York?

You're citing that data under the header "Jews in NY."
the rest are secular and don't identify with any type of Judaism.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2012, 03:08:31 PM »

according to thearda.com there are 588,500 Orthodox Jews in NY

Here's a link that says 550,000-600,000 Orthodox Jews in all of North America.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-jewish-population.htm
http://www.thearda.com/rcms2010/r/s/36/rcms2010_36_state_name_2010.asp
Jews in NY
Orthodox Jews 588,500
Reform Jews 106,806
Conservative Jews 82,809
Reconstructionist Jews 5,991

next time look at the source of the "fact" you said it was only a letter to the editor in a magazine.

Those numbers don't even add up to half of 1,635,020. Now learn math.
did I say half?
I said that it underestimates the Orthodox vote in short more then 9% of NYS must disapprove of Coumo based on the fact that these numbers are not true because just based on the Orthodox numbers (even using a conservative 50% "Orthodox Jewish Coumo unapproval rating") alone it should be higher then 9% for Coumo's unapproval rating.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2012, 05:44:07 PM »

according to thearda.com there are 588,500 Orthodox Jews in NY

Here's a link that says 550,000-600,000 Orthodox Jews in all of North America.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-jewish-population.htm
http://www.thearda.com/rcms2010/r/s/36/rcms2010_36_state_name_2010.asp
Jews in NY
Orthodox Jews 588,500
Reform Jews 106,806
Conservative Jews 82,809
Reconstructionist Jews 5,991

next time look at the source of the "fact" you said it was only a letter to the editor in a magazine.

Those numbers don't even add up to half of 1,635,020. Now learn math.
did I say half?
I said that it underestimates the Orthodox vote in short more then 9% of NYS must disapprove of Coumo based on the fact that these numbers are not true because just based on the Orthodox numbers (even using a conservative 50% "Orthodox Jewish Coumo unapproval rating") alone it should be higher then 9% for Coumo's unapproval rating.

You listed two numbers, one of which was a number of Orthodox Jews, the other a number of all Jews, in implicit response to the statement that most New York Jews aren't Orthodox. Sadly for you, those numbers confirmed that most New York Jews are, in fact, not Orthodox. 35.99% is not 'most'. Then you further itemized it in a way that didn't add up to your total.
but his response was to my statement that this poll underestimates Orthodox Jews.  which is why I posted what I did. 
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« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2012, 05:53:00 PM »
« Edited: June 06, 2012, 06:07:48 PM by NY Jew »

http://www.thearda.com/rcms2010/r/s/36/rcms2010_36_state_name_2010.asp
Jews in NY
Orthodox Jews 588,500
Reform Jews 106,806
Conservative Jews 82,809
Reconstructionist Jews 5,991

next time look at the source of the "fact" you said it was only a letter to the editor in a magazine.

Quick question.

Do you believe there are only 190,000 non-Orthodox Jews in the state of New York?

You're citing that data under the header "Jews in NY."
the rest are secular and don't identify with any type of Judaism.

You are incorrect to say that Jews who are not adherents to synagogues "don't identify with any type of Judaism." Maybe their identification as Jews is meaningless to you and other Orthodox Jews, but you don't get to decide how they self-identify, and you certainly don't get to apply this to polls where self-identification is the issue and they are counted as Jews. After all, the Satmars would consider you a goy.
how many Satmar's do you know?
you have no clue about the Orthodox Jewish community.  you know that Satmar (at least the more religious ones) respect some non Chasidiem very much.  besides there are many things that I'm much more machmir about then Satmar (and if you don't know what that means then your opinion is all the more worthless).  Just for the record non chasidich Lakewood is much more religious then Williamsburg and KJ.

Thought you might be interested to know that one of the Satmar rebbe's has a picture of one of the rabinic leaders of the OU (which show his respect) in his house I'm 100% sure that the situation is not reversed.
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 07:02:43 PM »

I take it you're conceding the rest of the post where the fact that you don't consider Jews not affiliated with temples to be Jewish is immaterial if they identify as Jewish to a pollster or anyone else.
I consider anyone whose mother is Jewish to be Jewish with the addition of Orthodox conversions.

only Orthodox Jews follow Judaism though.

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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 07:08:36 PM »

let's review over 35% of all Jews in NY are Orthodox where there is no way Coumo unapproval ratings are less then 50%.

 but according to a poll Coumo only has a 9% unapproval amongst all jews even after factoring in children this is wrong even if every  single non Orthodox Jew supported Coumo.
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« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 06:39:43 PM »

NY Jew is in denial that most Jews are Democrats.
no I'm not I'm denying that most Jews follow Judaism.
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« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 06:42:39 PM »

NY Jew is in denial that most Jews are Democrats.

He defines Jews to be Republicans. You know: if you vote Dem, your circumcision is invalid.
no,
I'm saying if your in favor of gay marriage you have no Jewish values.
If you don't keep Shabbos your opinion about Jewish values is worthless.
I'm saying that the vast majority of Jews in America are for all intensive purposes complete non Jews (meaning that's how they live their lives, they still are jews)
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