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« Reply #200 on: June 10, 2012, 02:45:19 PM »

An Irish commentator seems to think a foul was committed for the second Croatian goal. Mandzukic hooked Ward's (the guy who inexplicably cleared it backwards) leg.
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« Reply #201 on: June 10, 2012, 02:46:03 PM »
« Edited: June 10, 2012, 02:59:59 PM by Keystone Phil »


Words cannot be found to describe this... thing... of a post.

Diving is the absolute worst thing about the sport, IMHO. Certain nations, cough, have seemed to refine that aspect of the game and turned it into an art form.  You would have thought there was a sniper in the stands.

I hate diving just as much as anyone else, guys, but the studs hit him on the arm (if barely) and that can really hurt.
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« Reply #202 on: June 10, 2012, 02:50:29 PM »

Words cannot be found to describe this... thing... of a post.

Diving is the absolute worst thing about the sport, IMHO. Certain nations, cough, have seemed to refine that aspect of the game and turned it into an art form.  You would have thought there was a sniper in the stands.
That nation, in this tournament so far, being Ireland. On three or four occasions in the first half alone. Including the free kick that led to the St Ledger goal.

Meanwhile, that guy got a sole on the shoulder*. That happens to hurt. But not to cause injury (unless you fall stupidly and into the other guy, obviously). He also cost his own team a chance by not getting up as fast as he perhaps might have, and then had to be "treated" off the pitch due to silly regulations as a result.
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« Reply #203 on: June 10, 2012, 02:54:25 PM »

Lol, nice goal there, Shay.
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« Reply #204 on: June 10, 2012, 02:56:01 PM »

Words cannot be found to describe this... thing... of a post.

Diving is the absolute worst thing about the sport, IMHO. Certain nations, cough, have seemed to refine that aspect of the game and turned it into an art form.  You would have thought there was a sniper in the stands.
That nation, in this tournament so far, being Ireland. On three or four occasions in the first half alone. Including the free kick that led to the St Ledger goal.

Meanwhile, that guy got a sole on the shoulder*. That happens to hurt. But not to cause injury (unless you fall stupidly and into the other guy, obviously). He also cost his own team a chance by not getting up as fast as he perhaps might have, and then had to be "treated" off the pitch due to silly regulations as a result.


I've broken an arm and not made a display of that kind.  In the words of the great philosopher Ron Swanson, Be a Man.
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« Reply #205 on: June 10, 2012, 03:00:22 PM »

Jeez, our football team is not what it used to be. You'd think out of 4 million people we would be able to find one quality player.
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« Reply #206 on: June 10, 2012, 03:03:02 PM »

So he waited for the pain to subside before getting onto his feet and dusting himself off. Big effing deal. (He then got landed with bitch karma when his side won the ball back much faster than he must have expected.)
Anyways it's not the same thing as diving. He clearly didn't tumble over nothing to win a free kick, unlike certain other people, and he clearly didn't stay down and fake injury in order to gain time which is of course the other common complaint subsumed under diving.
(Though, obviously, I also doubt the literal truth of your claim. Tongue)
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« Reply #207 on: June 10, 2012, 03:09:24 PM »

Should've been a penalty there for the tackle on Keane.
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« Reply #208 on: June 10, 2012, 03:11:41 PM »

It is an absurd display of acting.  It was a foul but he played it up like he was shot.  That is, or at least it should be, embarrassing. Of course, every nation/club etc does there acting.  Italy has, so Im told, been quite adept at it.  

The acting makes the game un-enjoyable for me and many others. It is not confined to football either because the NBA has players flopping all over the place too.
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« Reply #209 on: June 10, 2012, 03:12:19 PM »

Not really. Hits the ball as well as the man (and nothing whatsoever with the other foot.) Couldn't have complained too much if it had been given, though, either, and these things do get given often enough. Filed under "incompetent defending / attacker's cleverness" in that case. (Which of course is just pc for "understandable dive".)
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« Reply #210 on: June 10, 2012, 03:14:36 PM »

Hopefully we make a good spoiler for the rest of the tournament.
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« Reply #211 on: June 10, 2012, 03:37:28 PM »

Already sort of doing that - could have fallen apart, but are instead fighting back fairly well in the last quarter of the game. And would deserve to get a 2-3 by now, actually.
"Intakte Moral" - is there an English equivalent to that phrase?
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« Reply #212 on: June 10, 2012, 03:43:12 PM »

Well, our football team's not getting through, our rugby team is sucking too, this is typically when the cricket team comes out of nowhere to make a big upset but unfortunately I don't think there's a tournament coming up soon.
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« Reply #213 on: June 10, 2012, 03:46:45 PM »

Already mentioned a couple refereeing decisions I felt went against us but we deserved to lose that one. No plan against an opposition that can score. Usually it's just park the bus but that went out the window when they scored.
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« Reply #214 on: June 10, 2012, 03:48:44 PM »

"Intakte Moral" - is there an English equivalent to that phrase?

Moral victory?

Ireland should have had 1-2 penalties though.
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« Reply #215 on: June 10, 2012, 03:49:56 PM »

"Intakte Moral" - is there an English equivalent to that phrase?

Moral victory?

Ireland should have had 1-2 penalties though.

Meh. I think referees see us going down very easily all over the field and while they'll give the free kicks, they won't give the penalties, nor cards.
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« Reply #216 on: June 10, 2012, 06:11:03 PM »

Spain, a team of whiners finally realizing amongst themselves that they won't retain their title, blame a "shameful" pitch for their draw - http://www.football-italia.net/19826/spaniards-blame-shameful-turf
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« Reply #217 on: June 10, 2012, 06:26:43 PM »

The grass was dry, what`s the matter here? Did they blame it as the cause of the draw? No. To the contrary, they recognized that Italy played well. Do you notice tabloid press?
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« Reply #218 on: June 10, 2012, 06:29:29 PM »

Well, our football team's not getting through, our rugby team is sucking too, this is typically when the cricket team comes out of nowhere to make a big upset but unfortunately I don't think there's a tournament coming up soon.
Just insist they make hurling an Olympic sport, that should do it...
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« Reply #219 on: June 10, 2012, 06:57:42 PM »

Well, our football team's not getting through, our rugby team is sucking too, this is typically when the cricket team comes out of nowhere to make a big upset but unfortunately I don't think there's a tournament coming up soon.
Just insist they make hurling an Olympic sport, that should do it...
Oh no. Don't remind me. It's gaelic and hurling season. I'm depressed now. We're really quite awesome at the rugby at club level, but the national team stinks. As for the football, it's all bad and we have no new talent coming down the line. IIRC, Duff, Given and Keane started the world cup 2002 and they're still 3 of our best players. We're beginning to resemble a league 1 (england) side.
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« Reply #220 on: June 10, 2012, 07:38:27 PM »

The grass was dry, what`s the matter here? Did they blame it as the cause of the draw? No. To the contrary, they recognized that Italy played well. Do you notice tabloid press?

I don't know how dry the grass could be when they were slipping around... Quite the theatrics. I know we weren't playing on it but did that field look "disastrous" to you? And of course they're saying they would have won if the turf was somehow better. Read between the lines, my friend. They're supposedly the world's greatest passers. They're complaining that dry grass slowed their passes. If it had been "properly watered," the game would have been "more entertaining." That's code for "we would have won."

They have a history of whining. Casillas bitched after we beat them in a Friendly, for Christ's sake even though they were awarded (and converted) a gift penalty.
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« Reply #221 on: June 10, 2012, 10:33:32 PM »

In hilarious slightly related news, Tahiti (or French Polynesia) has defeated New Caledonia (who defeated New Zealand) to win the 2012 OFC Nations Cup, and will now be playing such teams as Brazil, Uruguay, Spain and whoever wins the Euro (France) at the 2013 Confederations Cup as a result. Grin
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« Reply #222 on: June 11, 2012, 05:43:02 AM »
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The grass was dry, what`s the matter here? Did they blame it as the cause of the draw? No. To the contrary, they recognized that Italy played well. Do you notice tabloid press?

I don't know how dry the grass could be when they were slipping around... Quite the theatrics. I know we weren't playing on it but did that field look "disastrous" to you? And of course they're saying they would have won if the turf was somehow better. Read between the lines, my friend. They're supposedly the world's greatest passers. They're complaining that dry grass slowed their passes. If it had been "properly watered," the game would have been "more entertaining." That's code for "we would have won."

They have a history of whining. Casillas bitched after we beat them in a Friendly, for Christ's sake even though they were awarded (and converted) a gift penalty.

Naah...There`s nothing to read between lines. If the grass is OK, see, "properly watered", the ball runs faster and everybody enjoy. Spanish players have always complained that FIFA doesn`t care about these things because they run against the spectacle. People pay for seeing good performances and yesterday`s they didn`t waste their money despite the deplorable dry and uncut grass.

A long history of whining??? See USA World Championship and how Luis Enrique ended after the caresses of Italian defenders. Thanks God that you have a good coach now; Prandelli has done a great job with Italy. Bye bye, Catenaccio. So long dirty playing (despite Ballotelli). Now letīs face Trapatoniīs Irish Praetor Guards (glups).
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« Reply #223 on: June 11, 2012, 06:12:09 AM »

People pay for seeing good performances and yesterday`s they didn`t waste their money despite the deplorable dry and uncut grass.

Ah, now it was also uncut. Interesting.
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« Reply #224 on: June 11, 2012, 06:59:39 AM »

Hoping that France continue their unbeaten run again today. Should be a good match to watch; a confident France at the start of the game will put England off their stride. England don't create opportunities, they have to wait for their opponents to miss them.
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