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« on: June 02, 2012, 09:47:58 am »
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What is your opinion on this commonly used statement in favor of abortions?
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2012, 12:25:04 pm »
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Safe? Yeah, although admittedly can cause emotional harm to women having one.

Legal? Not universally yet, but it should be considered a right for all women.

Rare? I'm not sure about this one.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2012, 01:20:16 pm »
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I don't really care if it's rare or not.   But yes, it should be safe and legal of course.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2012, 01:24:48 pm »
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Safe? Yeah, although admittedly can cause emotional harm to women having one.

Legal? Not universally yet, but it should be considered a right for all women.

Rare? I'm not sure about this one.

You want abortions to be more common? 
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« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2012, 01:26:19 pm »
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Safe? Yeah, although admittedly can cause emotional harm to women having one.

Legal? Not universally yet, but it should be considered a right for all women.

Rare? I'm not sure about this one.

You want abortions to be more common? 

If it means that one day 16 and Pregnant can be cancelled due to lack of material.
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« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2012, 01:28:46 pm »
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These three are fine to me. Add "free", though.
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« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2012, 01:55:58 pm »
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The idea that they need to be rare is a concession to the reactionary forces, really people should be able to have abortions as often as they want to. Emotional harm only comes from stigmatization of abortions, which of course is foolish- remove that and all shall be fine. People should think of abortions as a normal procedure akin to putting on a condom. They can and should be having them left and right, which will be glorious.

Antonio V/Objectif 289 (do we go by the little names or the big ones?) alas, I do not think they should be free- condoms are not, no?
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« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2012, 01:57:25 pm »
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Little.

Very good as far as these political slogans go.
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« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2012, 01:59:55 pm »
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Safe- Abortions will not be if they are made illegal.
Legal- See above.
Rare- Yes, but for the convenience of the women.  Obviously, no one likes abortion or unwanted pregnancy.
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2012, 02:06:33 pm »
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I don't get this debate about there being "too many abortions". It's the choice of the individual.
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« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2012, 02:09:43 pm »
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I don't get this debate about there being "too many abortions". It's the choice of the individual.

I'm happy someone gets it. I think there need to be more, but really the idea of rarity being a good thing... is again an imposition.
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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2012, 02:15:38 pm »
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Antonio V/Objectif 289 (do we go by the little names or the big ones?) alas, I do not think they should be free- condoms are not, no?

I'm all for free condoms as well, but I guess they are cheap enough for the price not to be a problem.

And yes, it's Antonio. Smiley Usernames (the "little" ones) are those to which most people are refered to as.
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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2012, 02:24:21 pm »
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Antonio V/Objectif 289 (do we go by the little names or the big ones?) alas, I do not think they should be free- condoms are not, no?

I'm all for free condoms as well, but I guess they are cheap enough for the price not to be a problem.

And yes, it's Antonio. Smiley Usernames (the "little" ones) are those to which most people are refered to as.

Yes, I suppose you are right. How much would an abortion cost, anyways?
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2012, 02:38:15 pm »
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No idea, but I guess it might be a very serious burden for lower-income women. Here in France, abortions are reimbursed like a medical act by the country's public health care.
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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2012, 02:45:31 pm »
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Assuming a single-payer system, then state-funded abortions would be obvious, I would think. But what are the chances we in the US would get single-payer any time soon?
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« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2012, 02:52:13 pm »
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Assuming a single-payer system, then state-funded abortions would be obvious, I would think. But what are the chances we in the US would get single-payer any time soon?



...unfortunately.
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« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2012, 02:53:43 pm »
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Safe, legal, and rare

Rare in this context is subtle pandering to the forced-birthers. What should be rare is unwanted pregnancies.
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« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2012, 04:23:59 pm »
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I like this TheReporter guy. We need more posters like him.
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« Reply #18 on: June 02, 2012, 04:26:42 pm »
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I like this TheReporter guy gal. We need more posters like him her.

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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2012, 04:27:27 pm »
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Of course abortion should be rare. Even if you're 'pro-choice' you can hardly consider it a morally neutral act. It's death (and death for no reason is...)
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« Reply #20 on: June 02, 2012, 04:30:11 pm »
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I like this TheReporter guy gal. We need more posters like him her.

Fixed.

See, that's why English needs gendered nouns. Then she could call her herself "TheReportress" and all would be well.
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« Reply #21 on: June 02, 2012, 04:30:22 pm »
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I'm not going to even comment on the rest of you. Anyway, it's a nice little slogan that tries to forge a nice little compromise ground for wishy-washy, indecisive politicians who want to be everything to anyone. Hell, if I wasn't quite the ideologue on this issue, I might fall for it. However, it's stupid.If you have a moral problem with abortion (as I do) and believe it's killing (as I do), then why the Hell don't you want it to be illegal? And if you're pro-choice and saying it, do you view abortion like video game playing, "It's not wrong, but we shouldn't have too much of it?" But, there's already enough bashing of it from the pro-choice side, so I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2012, 04:30:54 pm »
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Of course abortion should be rare. Even if you're 'pro-choice' you can hardly consider it a morally neutral act. It's death (and death for no reason is...)

...Except there are people out there who don't view it as killing.
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2012, 04:32:33 pm »
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The idea that they need to be rare is a concession to the reactionary forces, really people should be able to have abortions as often as they want to. Emotional harm only comes from stigmatization of abortions, which of course is foolish- remove that and all shall be fine. People should think of abortions as a normal procedure akin to putting on a condom. They can and should be having them left and right, which will be glorious.

Antonio V/Objectif 289 (do we go by the little names or the big ones?) alas, I do not think they should be free- condoms are not, no?

I'm glad someone feels the same as me.  In regards to the bolded part, especially.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2012, 04:33:42 pm »
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It's inaccurate hackery. It's as bad as any spin the Republicans have ever come up with.
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