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Question: Will he still win even if something happens such as a string of weak jobs reports?
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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2012, 02:42:03 PM »
« edited: June 03, 2012, 02:44:46 PM by Mitt Romney, Economic Heavyweight »

It's early May. A lot of things can change either way. To say either one of the candidates will win no matter what is idiotic.

Is this even possible?  Kalwejt and I actually agree on something, as to the outcome of this election?
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2012, 02:42:21 PM »

Well, no, of course not. What does that even mean?

He's the favourite, certainly, and I'd put money on him winning (even with those unfortunate jobs numbers), but Romney will probably win if Obama eats a baby on live television or something.

Sorry Oakvale, bad jobs numbers, and Obama loses.

Oh, I agree, certainly, I meant specifically the most recent numbers. Of course they're going to have to improve in general.

@Kalwejt - I'm pretty sure it's June. Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2012, 03:02:37 PM »

@Kalwejt - I'm pretty sure it's June. Tongue



Self-burn it is, sir.
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2012, 04:06:32 PM »


Chris Matthews, a big Obama booster by the way, was right. 

A few more Sundays like this and Obama won't make it past August.

I'm sure you put a lot of stock into what Chris Matthews said before that right?
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2012, 05:04:39 PM »

Keep underestimating Mitt Romney. Go ahead.

No underestimating at all, I just think some of his supporters overestimate exactly how good his chances are. I certainly don't underestimate his chances to stumble and make gaffes.
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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2012, 05:06:39 PM »

Keep underestimating Mitt Romney. Go ahead.

No underestimating at all, I just think some of his supporters overestimate exactly how good his chances are. I certainly don't underestimate his chances to stumble and make gaffes.
Previously, it was about 65-35 Obama; now it's probably more like 55-45.
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2012, 06:19:41 PM »

It's a 50-50 election, but I give the edge to Romney.

Yep. Candidates don't usually win re-election with these numbers, and Obama's going to have a hard time recovering if he's humiliated by the Supreme Court and in Wisconsin this month.

His only options are essentially to take his licks and look weak, or get aggressive and declare war on the SC, turning off independents. Rock and hard place.

Yes, I agree.
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« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2012, 06:52:57 PM »

It's a 50-50 election, but I give the edge to Romney.

Yep. Candidates don't usually win re-election with these numbers, and Obama's going to have a hard time recovering if he's humiliated by the Supreme Court and in Wisconsin this month.

His only options are essentially to take his licks and look weak, or get aggressive and declare war on the SC, turning off independents. Rock and hard place.

Yes, I agree.

Or, you know, have the economy keep recovering.
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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2012, 07:48:06 PM »

It was NEVER a done deal - when an economic situation, both locally and globally, is so precarious... he's never had this in the bag.
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2012, 08:12:06 PM »

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Still have it as 90:10 odds against Mitt, "Cheezy grits" Romney.
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« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2012, 09:18:14 PM »

This election is still not so much one that Mitt Romney can win; it is one that he has to snatch from a failing Obama.
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« Reply #36 on: June 03, 2012, 09:19:54 PM »

This election is still not so much one that Mitt Romney can win; it is one that he has to snatch from a failing Obama.

Well, if you nominate two losers, one of them has to win.
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« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2012, 07:51:40 PM »

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Still have it as 90:10 odds against Mitt, "Cheezy grits" Romney.

And some have called me a hack?
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« Reply #38 on: June 05, 2012, 08:10:53 PM »

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Still have it as 90:10 odds against Mitt, "Cheezy grits" Romney.

And some have called me a hack?

Ben is not an Obama supporter.
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« Reply #39 on: June 05, 2012, 09:37:15 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2012, 09:40:08 PM by Mitt Romney's Hair »

No. Too many factors are against him this time. Although they're was a lot of issues in 2004 that were against Bush but he still won.

I'd give him a 60-70% chance.

Not really.

Bush, no matter what you think of him, had a very strong first term - he was riding the rally effect from 9/11. Sure, it diminshed greatly by Nov 2004, but he was still above 50% - compare this to Obama who has slipped to lows of 39% in his first term, and has struggled to hit 50%+ over the last 2 years!

And a lot of issues against Bush? No. Hardly. 2004 was mainly about national security - that was only 3 years after 9/11, and Bush/GOP were seen strong on that. The backlash of the Iraq War didn't really take proper shape until after his election (remember, it was only 1 year on at that point, and remember again it had strong bipartisan support), likewise, Katrina was a year away, too.....

Obama, NOT Bush, has more issues going against him. How one wins the election with an approval rating regarding the economy - you know, the #1 issue of the electorate - around 36% is beyond me. And how about his foreign policy? - To liberals, he has continued too many of Bush's policies, and for Republicans, he's weak, dithers, and has no leadership.

60-70% chance of re-election? While he may still eek out a very slender victory, you're going to be either sweating or going to be a very disappointed man in November.....
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« Reply #40 on: June 05, 2012, 09:46:42 PM »

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Still have it as 90:10 odds against Mitt, "Cheezy grits" Romney.

And some have called me a hack?

Unbelievable, isn't it?
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« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2012, 06:22:39 AM »

While I've always said that Romney was the weakest candidate the GOP could run -- and why the Obama's MSM super-PAC paved the way for his nomination -- I still don't give Obama more than a 20% chance to win re-election.
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« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2012, 08:53:37 AM »

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Still have it as 90:10 odds against Mitt, "Cheezy grits" Romney.

And some have called me a hack?

Ben has been 100% negative on Romney for months. It's possible to have more than one on this board.
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« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2012, 09:22:59 AM »

That's not true.

Romney doesn't mistreat dogs or belong to a heretical sect of fake 'christians' like Obama does.
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