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« Reply #150 on: October 11, 2012, 12:06:45 PM »

Things seem to go from bad to worse for PdL - the Governor of Lombardy is now faced with the possibility of Lega Nord pulling out of the Regional Council. Formigoni would then have to rule and run with just PdL which would affect elections in Veneto and Piedmont as they are supposedly part of a joint political agreement.

Lega Nord is threatening to quit because of a personal scandal surrounding Formigoni, in hopes that he'd step aside. It's never good when someone is forced to say they won't resign. Formigoni had to do just that today.

The situation in Lombardia is pathetic.
I've lost the count of the number of PdL and Lega regional councillors who have been forced to resign due to arrests and/or judicial inquiries.
It's a miracle,and a horrible one, that he still is Governor.

He better enjoy what little time left he has, since probably he'll go to jail after the process regarding Lombardia's health care system and Formigoni's corruption.
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« Reply #151 on: October 11, 2012, 12:56:40 PM »

Oh, and Formigoni is also taking heat for a councillor in his government allegedly buying votes from 'Ndrangheta. Can't forget that little tidbit.

Talking of which: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19886631
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« Reply #152 on: October 22, 2012, 12:05:42 PM »

Latest poll by TgLa7...

Prime Minister preference:

Monti - 20%
Renzi - 12%
Bersani - 11%
Berlusconi - 8%

(I guess Vendola isn't registering enough support. Seems strange.)

Party preference:

PD - 28%
M5S - 18%
PdL - 17%
LN - 6%
UdC - 6%
SEL - 5%
IdV - 4%
FLI - 3%
LD - 2%
FdS - 2%
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« Reply #153 on: October 22, 2012, 01:17:33 PM »


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« Reply #154 on: October 22, 2012, 01:58:16 PM »


Hey, Italians at least keep it interesting.
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« Reply #155 on: October 22, 2012, 02:33:08 PM »

As soon I hear about M5S, I can't help, but think about Tre Stelle cheese.
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« Reply #156 on: October 22, 2012, 03:15:16 PM »

The "Prime Minister preference" polls are utterly useless Wink
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« Reply #157 on: October 22, 2012, 03:17:12 PM »

Remember that we're dealing with a country that voted for the DC's for forty years, and then decided that Berlusconi wasn't such a bad chap after all. Nothing that can possibly happen is as bizarre as what already has done so...
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« Reply #158 on: October 22, 2012, 03:50:57 PM »

The "Prime Minister preference" polls are utterly useless Wink

Of course but it's still interesting. Any idea why Vendola wasn't registering enough support or not included in the poll?
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« Reply #159 on: October 22, 2012, 03:54:18 PM »

The "Prime Minister preference" polls are utterly useless Wink

Of course but it's still interesting. Any idea why Vendola wasn't registering enough support or not included in the poll?
Vendola is polling a decent third in the center-left primaries,and he's got quite a bit of media coverage.
This just shows how those kind of polls are useless,and are used only to give the media some new (small) news.
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« Reply #160 on: October 22, 2012, 04:15:08 PM »

And when is the primary? Every time I check for the exact date, I read that it hasn't been set yet but it's at the end of 2012.
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« Reply #161 on: October 22, 2012, 05:34:44 PM »

I expect the M5S will have the same sort of deflating momentum as the Pirates are experiencing right now in Germany when the actual alection will approach. Otherwise, it will in any case be fun to watch Cheesy
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« Reply #162 on: October 23, 2012, 12:29:41 AM »

So PdL still hasn't regained any ground since his crash last Spring? I still don't think it will stay at this level, but if it does, God it will be beautiful... Hopefully the Formigoni trainwreck will help keeping them to the ground. Lega, on the other hand, seems marginally up from its 4-5% lows. Sad, but after all they're in the opposition, so it's easy for them.

Surprisingly good PD levels, but it seems to be siphoning IdV and SEL, so it sucks. Sad
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« Reply #163 on: October 24, 2012, 02:43:53 PM »

And when is the primary? Every time I check for the exact date, I read that it hasn't been set yet but it's at the end of 2012.
25th of November.
The 2nd round two weeks after.

And now,Berlusconi is officially out.
PdL primaries on the 16th of December, with Alfano,Alemanno and Santanchè.
3 complete jokes.
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« Reply #164 on: October 24, 2012, 03:34:59 PM »

Wait, Berlusconi has given up?!?
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« Reply #165 on: October 24, 2012, 08:27:53 PM »

And when is the primary? Every time I check for the exact date, I read that it hasn't been set yet but it's at the end of 2012.
25th of November.
The 2nd round two weeks after.

And now,Berlusconi is officially out.
PdL primaries on the 16th of December, with Alfano,Alemanno and Santanchè.
3 complete jokes.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Silvio is officially out? Did he announce it today? And what the hell is with having a primary right before Christmas?

Is Alfano favored to win? I want to say that I'd like to see Alemanno win but he's probably the least electable, right? And who is this Santanchè? I've seen the name before but don't remember why.
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« Reply #166 on: October 24, 2012, 08:33:23 PM »

Oh, wow. Santanchè is a woman. This should be interesting!
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« Reply #167 on: October 24, 2012, 09:09:47 PM »

There is a trend of having politicians with names of foreign countries or languages?
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« Reply #168 on: October 24, 2012, 09:27:25 PM »

And Alemanno comes from National Alliance as Santanché. Alfano comes from Sicilian Christian Democracy tradition. Maybe a firebrand can keep some PdL voters from voting Grillo and even for a populist candidate of left.
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« Reply #169 on: October 24, 2012, 09:40:39 PM »

There is a trend of having politicians with names of foreign countries or languages?

Santanchè? Spanish or Portuguese?
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« Reply #170 on: October 24, 2012, 10:31:52 PM »

There is a trend of having politicians with names of foreign countries or languages?

Santanchè? Spanish or Portuguese?

No, Alemanno is a local local in Alsace/Swiss/Germany. Called Alemannic in English.
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« Reply #171 on: October 25, 2012, 07:38:37 AM »

There is a trend of having politicians with names of foreign countries or languages?

Santanchè? Spanish or Portuguese?

No, Alemanno is a local local in Alsace/Swiss/Germany. Called Alemannic in English.

Really? Interesting. I was going to say Santanchè still seemed Italian but figured it was the most obvious of the three names to possibly be not-Italian.
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« Reply #172 on: October 25, 2012, 07:57:12 AM »

There is a trend of having politicians with names of foreign countries or languages?

Santanchè? Spanish or Portuguese?

No, Alemanno is a local local in Alsace/Swiss/Germany. Called Alemannic in English.

Really? Interesting. I was going to say Santanchè still seemed Italian but figured it was the most obvious of the three names to possibly be not-Italian.

Well, no. Alemanno is an Italian word, but it means Alemannic in Italian.
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« Reply #173 on: October 25, 2012, 08:23:37 AM »

A trend begins with two however, no ?

And, to respond to all of you asking, yes, Berlusconi finally said he would give up for this election. In France it was in the news. Doesn't really mean we got rid of him ad vitam aeternam though...
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« Reply #174 on: October 25, 2012, 08:56:06 AM »

Alemanno denied he'll run.
In the meanwhile Galan, former governor of Veneto and quite moderate, announced he'll run.

Btw, Santanchè is a complete joke. She was the candidate PM for The Right in 2008, then went back to PdL. She is only famous for her habit of openly insulting people, both on television and on the street.
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