Italy 2013: The official thread

[Senator Cris]

The latest polls from Italy: is a very close!

Demopolis: Csx + 0,1%
Tecnè: Cdx + 0,7%
Ipr: Csx +1%
Swg: Cdx + 3,1%
Piepoli: Csx + 0,5%

[Tender Branson]

Why exactly is it called "CSX" and "CDX", and not simply "CS" (centro-sinistra) or "CD" (centro-destra) ?

[Senator Cris]

In Italy Centrosinistra is called CSX, Centrodestra is called CDX and Centro (Center) is called CX, but you can also use CS and CD.

[Keystone Phil]

Yes but what does the "X" stand for?

By the way, it should be great having you on the Forum and specifically in this thread!

[Senator Cris]

Thanks!
If you want I can continue to update this thread with the latest news from Italy!

[Senator Cris]

Yesterday took place the primary, in the autonomist province of Trentino, of the autonomist coalition of centre-left (Pd --> Democratic Party, IDV --> Italy of Values, VERDI --> Federation of the Greens, PSI --> Italian Socialist Party, UPT --> Union for Trentino and PATT --> Trentino Tyrolean Autonomist Party).

This the result:

Ugo Rossi (PATT) 34,4%
Alessandro Olivi (PD) 33,8%
Mauro Gilmozzi (UPT of the incumbent governor Dellai. Dellai is a member of the parliament for Civic Choice for Italy of Monti Monti ) 28,0%
Lucia Coppola (VERDI) 1,9%
Alexander Schuster (PSI) 1,9%

Elections will be held on 27 October simultaneously whit the provincial election in the province of South Tyrol. The Regional Council of Trentino Alto Adige is composed by the elect in all the two province.

The favorite in the province of Trentino is Ugo Rossi.

Other updates for the autonomist province of South Tyrol  in the next days.

[Senator Cris]

On 17 and 18 November will be held in  Basilicata the regional elections.

Before:

2010 regional elections: Vito De Filippo (Cs) won with 61% of the vote (the region is "CS Solid"). Nicola Pagliuca (Cd) took 28% of the vote. Magdi Cristiano Allam (Civic List) took 9%. First party was Democratic Party, with 27%, followed by People of Freedom (19%), Italy of Values (10%) and Union of the Centre (in coalition with Democratic Party) with 7%.

In April, the president Vito De Filippo has resigned after the investigation into illegally repayments received by councilors and advisers, where is not involved.

[Senator Cris]

Resignation of Minister of Internal and vice-premier Angelino Alfano (Secretary of PDL, People of the Freedom).

Before:

The Minister Alfano is accused of not stopping or did not know the expulsion of wife and daughter of a dissident of Kazakhstan.
Alfano has exposed yesterday in the Senate a relation which he said he had not been informed of the incident.

SEL (Left Ecology Freedom of Nichi Vendola, governor of Apulia) and M5S (Five Star Movement of Beppe Grillo) filed a motion of distrust for Alfano.
In the Democratic Party is in progress a debate on resignation of Alfano. The men close of Florence Mayor Matteo Renzi push for yes to distrust.

[Keystone Phil]

Is he staying on as party secretary?

[Senator Cris]

Yes, Angelino Alfano is the national secretary of PDL (the president is Silvio Berlusconi).
He become a member of the Letta government. He is Minister of Internal and vicepremier.

[Keystone Phil]

Yes, I know he is but is he resigning that position or only resigning his government position?

[Senator Cris]

His resignation from his government position

[Antonio the Sixth]

Alfano's not resigning. The no-confidence motion failed and Berlusconi has made it clear he will stay. No idea what you are talking about, Cris.

[Senator Cris]

Alfano's not resigning. The no-confidence motion failed and Berlusconi has made it clear he will stay. No idea what you are talking about, Cris.

My post was of 17 July. Yesterday the Senate rejected the distrust, I was just about to write.

[Senator Cris]

Tonight or tomorrow the ruling on the TV rights of Mediaset .
Berlusconi risks imprisonment and disqualification from holding public office by 3 to 5 years.

[RogueBeaver]

Per NYT, apparently a compromise ruling is being considered where Berlusconi can still remain in Parliament.

[Senator Cris]

Berlusconi : confirmed a sentence of 4 years imprisonment (it will make a year of imprisonment for the "indulto" and will serve them or under house arrest or community service). Disqualification from public office (ineligibility) to be redefined within the year, a maximum conceivable of 3 years.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

So...Berlusconi just got actually convicted of something no-take-backsies this time or is there still some other shoe out there somewhere in the Italian judicial system waiting to drop?

[RogueBeaver]

What Nathan said. If this verdict is final...

[Senator Cris]

This verdect is the final.
With a year of imprisonment and the interdiction to be redefined is politically dead.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So...Berlusconi just got actually convicted of something no-take-backsies this time or is there still some other shoe out there somewhere in the Italian judicial system waiting to drop?

From what I have heard, it seems to be mostly over for him. I guess there are a few ways out (such as a presidential pardon), but they are extremely remote.

[Keystone Phil]

But isn't the "year in prison" actually going to be house arrest or community service because of his age?

[Tender Branson]

But isn't the "year in prison" actually going to be house arrest or community service because of his age?

Yes, sadly, which means he has to shell out some more money for additional bunga-bunga-parties if he wants to "survive" his 1-year multi-million "mansion arrest".

[Keystone Phil]

But isn't the "year in prison" actually going to be house arrest or community service because of his age?

Yes, sadly, which means he has to shell out some more money for additional bunga-bunga-parties if he wants to "survive" his 1-year multi-million "mansion arrest".

Exactly what I mentioned in another thread. 

[Rocky Rockefeller]

Yeah but the ban from public office hasn't been finalized yet and the statute of limitations will probably run out before they settle on that.