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Junior Chimp
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« on: June 06, 2012, 09:36:59 AM »

"The mess left behind by the last government!"
Shut up, David Cameron!

"We had no other option when we entered coalition."
There were many, Clegg!
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2012, 04:17:28 PM »

"The Royal Family pays for itself."
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 07:41:09 PM »

The newest one:

The Supreme Court's ruling on ACA is bad for Barack Obama/good for Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2012, 05:11:21 PM »

So he is a nutty leftist, just not a nutty far-leftist?

Basically. When you know actual French far-leftists, you can easily see the difference.

Yes but France is several notches to the left of almost every other developed western nation with the exception of the Scandinavian states. Although the difference is their political discourse seems competent, whereas in France it seems like half of their politicians are still stuck in the 1790's. Melenchon would be considered a far-leftist outside of France. Even the BBC, a bastion of liberal-leftism, calls him a far-leftist, as to other such bastions like the Guardian.

They also think Syriza's far-left, so they're not exactly the best judges. And France has had 2 left-wing Presidents since the war, hardly "several notches to the left of almost every other developed western nation".
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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2012, 06:36:30 PM »

Obviously this thread is a disaster, but with regards to France it should be pointed out that a certain disconnect between rhetoric and reality is a traditional (the most traditional?) feature of political language there. In any case, the existence of a formerly viable hard left political tradition does not make the entire country so inclined...

But then the Guardian is incredibly left-wing.

Hahaha, no.

Didn't they endorse the Lib Dems? Obviously far-left.

Perhaps I should have phrased it differently, but anyone denying that the Guardian has a leftist bent is obviously living in a dreamworld. I wouldn't call the Lib Dems far-left, but their claim that they are centrist is just laughable.

Yes, because the Liberal Democrats is an emphatically center-right party, following a center-right agenda.
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