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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2012, 05:47:58 PM »

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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2012, 06:39:01 PM »

Didnt know you were "a foreign poster". Do you just feel so alienated from US politics at the moment, that you decided to change your citizenship. Wink

Texas is a part of the U.S. just like Tibet (and Taiwan) is part of China.

Be glad of it, because without Texas those masses of economic refugees from failed states like California, New York, and Illinois might be washing up on your shores.

Texas is a part of the US more like Manchuria is part of China, but whatever.

If California, New York, and Illinois are 'failed states' then Texas, which of course leads the nation in low-wage unskilled marginal labor, certainly is too.
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« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2012, 07:49:12 PM »

Obama, without hesitation.  He's not perfect, but the Republicans need to lose every election until they rediscover sanity.  (And Romney is not exactly an appealing candidate.)

The MSM defeated the Tea Party to nominate Romney, the most far-left GOP presidential nominee in memory (at least since Nixon).  The MSM is on a roll, having in 2008 defeated the Clinton Machine to force the Democrats to nominate their most far-left nominee in living memory (at least since McGovern).

If Obama and/or Romney fail, you can't say the American Left wasn't given every chance.

"Nach Romney, uns".

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« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2012, 11:46:28 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2012, 11:51:44 PM by WhyteRain »

Didnt know you were "a foreign poster". Do you just feel so alienated from US politics at the moment, that you decided to change your citizenship. Wink

Texas is a part of the U.S. just like Tibet (and Taiwan) is part of China.

Be glad of it, because without Texas those masses of economic refugees from failed states like California, New York, and Illinois might be washing up on your shores.

Texas is a part of the US more like Manchuria is part of China, but whatever.

If California, New York, and Illinois are 'failed states' then Texas, which of course leads the nation in low-wage unskilled marginal labor, certainly is too.

As a lifelong Texan (though of Yankee parents), I can admit that, except for the company one gets to keep, no one would want to live in Texas.  It has a fearsome climate and ugly scenery.  Even the Mexicans didn't want to live here for the first 300-odd years they had it.

But one thing Texas also is:  The -- THE -- refuge for America's hardworking and big-dreaming 99%ers.

Take a state -- um, sorry, a commonwealth, like Massachusetts.  Between 2007 and 2009 (latest data available), Massachusetts had net migration of about 5,000 of its residents to Texas, California, and New Hampshire, about 6,000 to North Carolina, and about 8,000 to Florida.  http://interactive.taxfoundation.org/migration/

But not all migrating Bay Staters carry the same cash.  An analysis of tax returns (at the link cited above) shows that the average Mass migrant brought the following adjusted gross incomes to these leading destination states:

$95,143:  Florida
$54,380:  New Hampshire
$50,269:  California
$39,664:  North Carolina
$36,335:  Texas

But as bad as it is that Massachusetts burdens Texas with its poor, it's hardly the worst offender.  Here are the top 10 states supplying economic refugees to Texas, with the per capita AGI of each:

California, 70,000 refugees, $20K avg AGI
Florida, 40,000 refugees, $14K avg AGI
Michigan, 22,000 refugees, $26K avg AGI
Illinois, 22,000 refugees, $27K avg AGI
New York, 15,000 refugees, $30K avg AGI
Arizona, 14,000 refugees, $12K avg AGI
Ohio, 12,000 refugees, $32K avg AGI
New Jersey, 9,000 refugees, $36K avg AGI
Indiana, 8,000 refugees, $19K avg AGI
Missouri, 7,000 refugees, $29K avg AGI

So, for those of you who look down your noses at so many poor folks in Texas, we say, "Stop driving so many of them to us -- we're tired of seeing those broken down cars with Yankee license plates under our bridges".

I should look at Massachusetts in-migration, just a minute ....

It looks like there are about 10 states that have more people moving to Massachusetts than vice-versa.  Here are the top seven ....

Rhode Island, 4,000 refugees, $34K avg AGI
Connecticut, 3,100 refugees, $62K avg AGI
New York, 3,100 refugees, $86K avg AGI
New Jersey, 2,400 refugees, $60K avg AGI
Michigan, 1,700 refugees, $41K avg AGI
Ohio, 900 refugees, $54K avg AGI
Pennsylvania, 700 refugees, $105K avg AGI
(No other states above 400)

Hmmm, I see some overlap:

12,000 Ohio residents moving to Texas:  $32K AGI per capita
900 Ohio residents moving to Mass.:  $54K AGI per capita

9,000 New Jersey residents moving to Texas:  $36K AGI per capita
2,400 New Jersey residents moving to Mass.:  $60K AGI per capita

15,000 New York residents moving to Texas:  $30K AGI per capita
3,100 New York residents moving to Mass.:  $86K AGI per capita

22,000 Michigan residents moving to Texas:  $26K AGI per capita
1,700  Michigan residents moving to Mass.:  $41K AGI per capita

No wonder a recent economic study found that if Texas closed its borders for just two years, the unemployment rate would drop to 2.3%.  Maybe we'd all be a lot richer then -- a lot more of those "high paying jobs", right?  

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« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2012, 03:14:56 PM »

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Technically I am still a 'foreign poster', despite my desire to nationalize as an American. I'm a Canuck expat.
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« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2012, 03:26:57 PM »

Are you really? What a great damn decision. I can't deal with the left-wing social engineering up here. And I know those sound like buzz words, but it is actually palpable.
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« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2012, 04:53:27 PM »

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I'm a graduate from a history program in Canada and I teach in high school. I got tired of subbing and getting treated by the staff like I was a pariah. I had some very nice teacher friends who kept getting me work ( so they could take some breaks), but I never got my breakthrough for a fulltime position.

So I left for Texas, make more, teach in a private school, and enjoy myself wholeheartedly!

Just have to wait for the paperwork, and I'll be able to naturalize. Cheesy
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« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2012, 05:32:16 PM »

Hey, that's awesome. That's what I'm hoping to do to. Stuck up at Queen's University for the time being. Glad everything worked out for you!
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« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 05:35:02 PM »

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I'm a graduate from a history program in Canada and I teach in high school. I got tired of subbing and getting treated by the staff like I was a pariah. I had some very nice teacher friends who kept getting me work ( so they could take some breaks), but I never got my breakthrough for a fulltime position.

So I left for Texas, make more, teach in a private school, and enjoy myself wholeheartedly!

Just have to wait for the paperwork, and I'll be able to naturalize. Cheesy

Noooooo ... Texas sucks!  Spread the word throughout Yankeedom -- Don't move here!

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« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2012, 06:05:19 PM »

Did I mention the scorpions? And the beetles? Nobody drives a mini, because the beetles will carry it away!

And the heat is something else. If you're outside during the day for more than a few hours without air conditioning, you'll die. And nobody will find the body.

Look at no country for old men - you really want that?
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« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2012, 06:09:41 PM »

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Queens? You have my sympathies. There aren't even any pretty girls out there. At least if you're going to weather the storm it helps to have eye candy.
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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2012, 03:55:03 AM »

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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2012, 05:46:09 AM »

Well, I certainly hope Canadian right-wingers move to the US...
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« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2012, 07:41:57 AM »

Well, I certainly hope Canadian right-wingers move to the US...

We will sell New England to you for a six-pack of Molsens -- and you can owe us that.  Have fun with our Roundheads.
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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2012, 07:44:51 AM »
« Edited: June 07, 2012, 07:48:59 AM by WhyteRain »

Did I mention the scorpions? And the beetles? Nobody drives a mini, because the beetles will carry it away!

And the heat is something else. If you're outside during the day for more than a few hours without air conditioning, you'll die. And nobody will find the body.

Look at no country for old men - you really want that?

That reminds me that when we were getting married, my New York City bride told her New York City parents to see the movie Tender Mercies as preparation for coming to Texas and meeting my family.

I remember that she also said, as she addressed the wedding invitations, "All of your friends and relatives live at 'Rural Route something'".  Which was true, but something I hadn't thought of before.
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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2012, 12:05:08 AM »

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Heh. Mine had seen No Country for Old men. She came down to Austin in March and was amazed. "It's so green". "I can see why you love it here!"

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No, I grew up in a rural area, and that's why I came to love Texas. I had missed that living in the cities and I look forward to being able to move out of where I am now back out to the countryside.
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