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Tender Branson
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« on: June 07, 2012, 11:48:56 AM »

48-43 Obama

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Automated Date: 6/6/2012 - Participants: 1,270 Likely Voters - Margin of Error: ± 2.75%

http://weaskamerica.com/2012/06/07/bellwether
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2012, 11:49:35 AM »

Time to reverse the spin after all the PPP bashing:

So, actually Obama+10 ?

Wink

WAA: Walker+12 Actual: Walker+7
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2012, 12:34:32 PM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

This is a pretty good poll for Romney.  He's +1 on McCain and hasn't campaigned a lick in the state, and Obama is down 8 on his '08 total. 
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2012, 01:49:27 PM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

By that measure, PPP was spot on, because they had Barrett at 47 and he finished at 47.

This logic leads to both PPP and WAA being the Gold Standard of pollsters even though they were 9 points apart.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2012, 02:42:38 PM »

Database Entry: https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2012/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5520120606116
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« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2012, 04:00:59 PM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

By that measure, PPP was spot on, because they had Barrett at 47 and he finished at 47.

This logic leads to both PPP and WAA being the Gold Standard of pollsters even though they were 9 points apart.

Amen
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2012, 06:33:42 PM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

By that measure, PPP was spot on, because they had Barrett at 47 and he finished at 47.

This logic leads to both PPP and WAA being the Gold Standard of pollsters even though they were 9 points apart.

Barrett got 46, not 47
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« Reply #7 on: June 07, 2012, 08:00:10 PM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

By that measure, PPP was spot on, because they had Barrett at 47 and he finished at 47.

This logic leads to both PPP and WAA being the Gold Standard of pollsters even though they were 9 points apart.

Barrett got 46, not 47

The point still stands; they were both one point off of the actual result for one of the two candidates.
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« Reply #8 on: June 07, 2012, 09:40:23 PM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

By that measure, PPP was spot on, because they had Barrett at 47 and he finished at 47.

This logic leads to both PPP and WAA being the Gold Standard of pollsters even though they were 9 points apart.

Barrett got 46, not 47

The point still stands; they were both one point off of the actual result for one of the two candidates.

Yes, creating a grand canyon size margin of 'correctness' is quite silly.
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« Reply #9 on: June 08, 2012, 11:55:40 AM »

The WAA Recall poll was closer than you make it look.  They said Walker had 54, and he got 53. 

By that measure, PPP was spot on, because they had Barrett at 47 and he finished at 47.

This logic leads to both PPP and WAA being the Gold Standard of pollsters even though they were 9 points apart.

Barrett got 46, not 47

The point still stands; they were both one point off of the actual result for one of the two candidates.

Yes, creating a grand canyon size margin of 'correctness' is quite silly.

Oh, of course it is. It was to demonstrate the ridiculousness of Timothy's claim.
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« Reply #10 on: June 08, 2012, 01:09:28 PM »

To be honest all these Wisconsin presidential polls are probably junk because the state's attention is on something else than federal level politics at the moment. Maybe the Democratic brand has been damaged by all the recall drama and maybe not. To gain any actual idea of how Wisconsin will react to a national campaign, we need to wait for all this to die down.
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« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2012, 05:17:17 PM »

Republicans are hoping, though, that it won't die down. Because as long as we're talking about Wisconsin's swing state potential, it will remain a swing state.

I noticed in the primaries that the media tended to determine how things played out. There were inklings of a Santorum surge in Iowa--so it was reported and reported and reported, and, lo and behold, there ended up being a real Santorum surge.

If Romney starts "surging" in Wisconsin, it'll be because the media says he is. And that'll get more Republicans out to vote and actually make good on that "surge."
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« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2012, 05:20:59 PM »

This is about what I expected for WI at this point.
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« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2012, 09:46:09 PM »

Republicans are hoping, though, that it won't die down. Because as long as we're talking about Wisconsin's swing state potential, it will remain a swing state.

I noticed in the primaries that the media tended to determine how things played out. There were inklings of a Santorum surge in Iowa--so it was reported and reported and reported, and, lo and behold, there ended up being a real Santorum surge.

If Romney starts "surging" in Wisconsin, it'll be because the media says he is. And that'll get more Republicans out to vote and actually make good on that "surge."

That is going to be hard to do though. All it takes is for one or two more polls like this and talk of a Romney surge will deflate.
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