Sean Trende: A Closer Look at those Wisconsin Exit Polls
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« on: June 08, 2012, 09:27:47 AM »

I am putting Sean Trende's discussion of exit polls in the context of Wisconsin, and their attendant issues here, because it is in the context of the Wisconsin Exit Poll after being "adjusted" showing Obama ahead of Romney by 7 points in Wisconsin. You can read all about more conservative voters not talking to exit pollers disproportionately, and how re-weighting exit poll precinct results to match the precinct actual vote for one race does not necessarily mean it does the job for another race not on the ballot. Ditto with absentee voters who are not polled in an exit poll. The issue is whether Walker voters who answered the exit poll were more pro Obama than those who told the exit poller to get out of their face and eat sh*t and die. And nobody knows the answer.

A bonus is the cell phone thing for the land line-less for polls in general. Just overweighting the youngs in a poll is no longer a fix, as land lines go the way of the horse and buggy disproportionately for the more hip (and maybe impecunious) irrespective of age, who also tend to be the more Dem.
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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 09:30:04 AM »

Doing that was never more than a kludge.
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 09:34:56 AM »

Doing that was never more than a kludge.

Gosh, now you are picking up American slang, as to which old and tech-less lawyers don't have a clue. How irritating.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 12:48:58 PM »

I don't know why he picked 3 polls when he could have used the RCP average for example. The RCP average nailed the recall result and they have Obama +5 in Wisconsin. Obama being up by 5 seems reasonable and not too far from the exit poll result. Certainly within the margin of error if Obama +5 is correct.
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« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2012, 01:01:01 PM »

We Ask America just released +5 Obama poll, I think the question is settled.
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« Reply #5 on: June 08, 2012, 01:13:18 PM »

We Ask America just released +5 Obama poll, I think the question is settled.

Also, let's remember J.J.'s Rule of Polling.
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« Reply #6 on: June 08, 2012, 04:07:33 PM »

We Ask America just released +5 Obama poll, I think the question is settled.

Also, let's remember J.J.'s Rule of Polling.

Remind me of what that rule is please. Thanks.
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« Reply #7 on: June 08, 2012, 04:09:30 PM »

Sean Trende is a partisan hack whose basic argument looks like this: Jacksonians are real americans and urban americans aren't.
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« Reply #8 on: June 08, 2012, 04:25:32 PM »

Sean Trende is a partisan hack whose basic argument looks like this: Jacksonians are real americans and urban americans aren't.

Even if he is a hack, do you disagree with his analysis of the Wisconsin exit poll conundrum when it is extrapolated into a race not on the ballot - to wit the POTUS race? 

Andy Jackson was arguably the worst POTUS in history by the way. If there is a hell, he's in it.  Thanks.
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