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disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 08, 2012, 11:23:16 am »
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Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in.
It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.
... This counting method may partly explain the official claims of extraordinarily low collateral deaths.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1
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Sibboleth
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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Change!
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Grumps
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on June 08, 2012, 12:05:59 pm
Change!
To be more precise
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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"partly"?
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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Quote from: Grady Yarbrough on June 09, 2012, 03:38:50 am
"partly"?
There might be some plain good old lying as well.
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Winston Disraeli
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am »
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
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hawkeye59
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm »
Quote from: batmacumba on June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki. Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
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Purch
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 02:52:00 pm »
Quote from: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm
Quote from: batmacumba on June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki. Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
Well considering our intrusion within the middle eat is what led to those attacks on Us soil in the first place...... So instead of learning from our double edged policies of the past we use drone attacks and completely ignore the the civilian causalities because we're America. From our bases on Saudi Arabi, To our bombings of Iraq, To our overthrow of Iranian Governments, To our arming of the Afgan resistance, to our drone attacks on Pakistan.... And people still believe we get attacked because we're free and a symbol of democracy.
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 02:56:38 pm »
Quote from: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm
Quote from: batmacumba on June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki. Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
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Purch
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 02:59:15 pm »
Quote from: SoEA SJoyceFla on June 11, 2012, 02:56:38 pm
Quote from: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm
Quote from: batmacumba on June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki. Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
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Those gravestones don't say democrat or republican those gravestones say American.
hawkeye59
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 07:22:52 pm »
Quote from: SoEA SJoyceFla on June 11, 2012, 02:56:38 pm
Quote from: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm
Quote from: batmacumba on June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki. Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
I wouldn't oppose that in general, but if you broke it, you fix it.
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sjoycefla
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Re: disturbingly Orwellian passage of the month
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June 11, 2012, 08:48:26 pm »
Quote from: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 07:22:52 pm
Quote from: SoEA SJoyceFla on June 11, 2012, 02:56:38 pm
Quote from: hawkeye59 on June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm
Quote from: batmacumba on June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am
Quote from: Northeast Representative Alfred F. Jones on June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm
Quote from: a peculiar noise called "train director" on June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm
If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki. Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
I wouldn't oppose that in general, but if you broke it, you fix it.
You can't really break something that's already broken.
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Quote from: windjammer on April 17, 2013, 05:38:19 pm
And for Sjoyce, sorry but your -10 on social issues, it scares me!
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