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« on: June 08, 2012, 11:23:16 am »
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Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent. ... This counting method may partly explain the official claims of extraordinarily low collateral deaths.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/world/obamas-leadership-in-war-on-al-qaeda.html?pagewanted=3&_r=1

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« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2012, 12:05:59 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2012, 12:22:18 pm »
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Good call on the edit, Ernest.  We don't want the jailed mass murderer to call Dave on copyright infringement.
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« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2012, 03:23:02 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2012, 03:38:50 am »
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2012, 02:49:18 pm »
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"partly"?

There might be some plain good old lying as well.
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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2012, 03:59:48 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2012, 05:13:26 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 12:20:01 am »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 02:01:03 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki.  Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 02:52:00 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki.  Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.

Well considering our intrusion within the middle eat is what led to those attacks on Us soil in the first place......  So instead of learning from our double edged policies of the past we use drone attacks and completely ignore the the civilian causalities because we're America. From our bases on Saudi Arabi, To our bombings of Iraq, To our overthrow of Iranian Governments, To our arming of the Afgan resistance, to our drone attacks on Pakistan.... And people still believe we get attacked because we're free and a symbol of democracy.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 02:56:38 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki.  Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.

I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2012, 02:59:15 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki.  Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.

I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.

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Those gravestones don't say democrat or republican those gravestones say American.
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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2012, 07:22:52 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki.  Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.

I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
I wouldn't oppose that in general, but if you broke it, you fix it.
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2012, 08:48:26 pm »
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If Bush did this, the internet would be losing its mind right now.

Well, the Internet reaction to Obama's national security policies seems to be a collective sigh.

But Al-Qaeda's second-in-command was caught!!!! How can this be wrong?
Not to mention Al-Awlaki.  Here's a question to the people who are against drones so much: how would you have gotten Al-Awlaki and the Al-Qaeda second-in-command, knowing that you can't go in there and arrest him, and knowing that they are responsible for many deadly attacks and attempted attacks on US soil?
Now don't get me wrong, I oppose this. But I don't oppose using drones in general.

I wouldn't have, because they wouldn't pose a threat to the United States, because military bases overseas would be shut down and threats and violence as our policy towards other nations would no longer be part of my administration's foreign policy; thus, they would have no reason to attack us.
I wouldn't oppose that in general, but if you broke it, you fix it.

You can't really break something that's already broken.
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