Romney makes another gaffe, or at least, a very silly statement

[kingthlayer]

"[Obama] wants to hire more government workers. He says we need more fireman, more policeman, more teachers. Did he not get the message of Wisconsin? The American people did. It's time for us to cut back on government and help the American people."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=LoSmWK_-x4g

I mean really if you're going bash government workers, just make it about faceless bureaucrats trying to meddle with your life.

But wanting more firefighters and teachers is bad?

Apparently Republicans also aren't interested in the local heroes vote either.

[Nagas]

Team Obama already pounced on this. I understood what he meant but this was a pretty bad gaffe.

[kingthlayer]

How so, and where?

Will it break through with the media frenzy over Obama's gaffe? I know not to check RealClearPolitics for a story about this.

Honestly though I am awestruck that anyone could think that cutting teachers and firefighters helps the American people. Who is out of touch here??

[Nagas]

On social media. It went up on Twitter and Facebook ~5 hours ago. Here's the Facebook picture:

[HagridOfTheDeep]

It's unfortunate.

[Purch]

Two Campaigns one campaign that can't stay on a winning message whiles the other can stay on message but is attracted to retarded statements.

[President Marokai]

Honestly though I am awestruck that anyone could think that cutting teachers and firefighters helps the American people. Who is out of touch here??

Republicans don't even seem to dress up their policies at this point, they just openly state them in the harshest, most cynical way possible. It's like American politics is a grand social experiment to see how far you can take beating up on normal people without reprecussions. So far, the public seems entirely apathetic. (And that is, perhaps, the goal.)

[krazen1211]

This country already has far more teachers than it needed during the Clinton administration.

[krazen1211]

On social media. It went up on Twitter and Facebook ~5 hours ago. Here's the Facebook picture:

Romney economics = Lower state/local taxes on the hard working American people!

Sign me up!

[ModerateCoward]

Honestly though I am awestruck that anyone could think that cutting teachers and firefighters helps the American people. Who is out of touch here??

Republicans don't even seem to dress up their policies at this point, they just openly state them in the harshest, most cynical way possible. It's like American politics is a grand social experiment to see how far you can take beating up on normal people without reprecussions. So far, the public seems entirely apathetic. (And that is, perhaps, the goal.)

Sigged

[I Can't Get That Sound You Make, Out Of My Head]

Much worse than the private sector gaffe.

[Nagas]

This country already has far more teachers than it needed during the Clinton administration.

...

Have you stepped in a High School classroom? A Middle school classroom? An Elementary school classroom? Have you seen the overcrowding which is prevalent in American schools? Overcrowding which is a result of what seems like unending teacher cuts. Are you aware 32+ kids per classroom is not an optimal learning environment for the kids or an optimal teaching environment for the instructor? The quality of the instructor could be pure gold and it would still be wasted and diminished on a class size too large. Large class sizes put more work (and investment of their own cash into the classroom!) for less pay per teacher. Less one-on-one student/teacher interaction occurs: to the great loss of the student.

We do not have too many teachers; it is not a problem of having too few "quality" teachers. There are many quality teachers, and the more the merrier, but one of the fundamental problems in our schools is not having enough teachers for the kids.

I would advise you to not make another ignorant post on the topic of American education unless you education yourself first.

[Jayhawker]

2 bad statements - it will even out.

This is June, don't expect it to make any impact.

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I guess he isn't bothering trying to win New Mexico. The largest fire in state history is currently active there.

[kingthlayer]

2 bad statements - it will even out.

This is June, don't expect it to make any impact.

Do you even think this will get that much media attention? On Real Clear Politics, it isn't a story anywhere. Not even on the aggregated content. We've established that their original content is biased trash (if you need any proof just check out this week's coverage), but it is troubling that it isn't trending elsewhere.

Romney economics = Lower state/local taxes on the hard working American people!

Sign me up!

Seriously? That isn't how most people will take this. When people's houses burn down cause the firefighter squad was too understaffed to get there on time, when crime escalates cause the police force is lacking, when local education systems start failing due to underfunding, when potholes don't get filled, streets don't get plowed, and sewage systems start breaking down, you'll know where people will point the blame.

[bgwah]

It's strange how many reactions Krazen gets. I think he's one of the more boring trolls.

[kingthlayer]

Apologies. If I knew who the trolls were, I wouldn't bother feeding them.

[Senator Napoleon]

Much worse than the private sector gaffe.

To you personally or to the country?

[wormyguy]

It's sort of a trap as well as a gaffe; the gaffe part is that it targeted firefighters and police officers, who usually lean Republican, the trap part is that if the Obama campaign tries to highlight it in ads etc. they'll probably find it backfiring.  Ordinary people are fed up with public-sector benefits, as we saw in Wisconsin.

[Proud Lieberal from Northeast]

Mitt Romney doesn't need cops patrolling his street. He can easily afford to hire a private security. Free market, bitch.

Mitt Romney doesn't need public teachers teaching his grandchildren. He can easily afford to hire private teachers. Free market again.

Mitt Romney is not aware that a vast majority of the people couldn't his life. But Obama socialism is bad!

[Progressive Realist]

Ordinary people are fed up with public-sector benefits, as we saw in Wisconsin.

They really aren't. They just think  they are because right-wing hacks have been constantly drilling the propaganda message that "PUBLIC EMPLOYEE UNIONS=BAD!"

[NHI]

It's sort of a trap as well as a gaffe; the gaffe part is that it targeted firefighters and police officers, who usually lean Republican, the trap part is that if the Obama campaign tries to highlight it in ads etc. they'll probably find it backfiring.  Ordinary people are fed up with public-sector benefits, as we saw in Wisconsin.

Yes. I agree that Obama's campaign will try to use this as another way to snipe at Romney, but I don't see it hurting him in the long run. This race is a coin toss, but I give the edge to Mitt.

[krazen1211]

This country already has far more teachers than it needed during the Clinton administration.

...

Have you stepped in a High School classroom? A Middle school classroom? An Elementary school classroom? Have you seen the overcrowding which is prevalent in American schools? Overcrowding which is a result of what seems like unending teacher cuts. Are you aware 32+ kids per classroom is not an optimal learning environment for the kids or an optimal teaching environment for the instructor? The quality of the instructor could be pure gold and it would still be wasted and diminished on a class size too large. Large class sizes put more work (and investment of their own cash into the classroom!) for less pay per teacher. Less one-on-one student/teacher interaction occurs: to the great loss of the student.

We do not have too many teachers; it is not a problem of having too few "quality" teachers. There are many quality teachers, and the more the merrier, but one of the fundamental problems in our schools is not having enough teachers for the kids.

I would advise you to not make another ignorant post on the topic of American education unless you education yourself first.

Well now we know you're full of crap, because student:teacher ratios are roughly 15.5:1 in the United States, and at worst 25.3:1 in your own state.

http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2010/2010309/tables/table_04.asp

I would advise you to not make another ignorant post on the topic of American education unless you education yourself first.

[krazen1211]

2 bad statements - it will even out.

This is June, don't expect it to make any impact.

Do you even think this will get that much media attention? On Real Clear Politics, it isn't a story anywhere. Not even on the aggregated content. We've established that their original content is biased trash (if you need any proof just check out this week's coverage), but it is troubling that it isn't trending elsewhere.

Romney economics = Lower state/local taxes on the hard working American people!

Sign me up!

Seriously? That isn't how most people will take this. When people's houses burn down cause the firefighter squad was too understaffed to get there on time, when crime escalates cause the police force is lacking, when local education systems start failing due to underfunding, when potholes don't get filled, streets don't get plowed, and sewage systems start breaking down, you'll know where people will point the blame.

Of course you just made all that up, as none of that happened in excess during the Clinton administration.

We need to reduce the teaching rolls roughly 18% or so to return to those numbers.

[Gravis Marketing]

Student/teacher ratio and class size aren't identical unless you're in a one-room school house.