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« on: June 11, 2012, 08:31:55 pm »
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Ok, so ChairmanSanchez has put up a great thread so far on an alternate history with America as a Commonwealth country, but I've also had an idea for a long time on an alternate history with the US being a Commonwealth country, but the timeline is a bit different.  I figured I'd put it up now that I have time.
1776: The Boston Massacre never takes place.  The American revolution therefore never materializes.  
1776 to 1860: An independent spirit develops in America that makes the American people push Westward much faster than the Canadians do, thus giving it a seperate identify from Canada.  However, due to geography, the Southeastern American provinces develop an agricultural, slave-labor-based economy, while the Northeastern American provinces develop a much more European-like, industrial economy.  As a result, the two regions develop quite differently in terms of society and social views as well.  Quite similar to OTL.
1862: Due to the immense unpopularity of slavery in Britain, Lord Palmerston imposes a plan on the Southern American provinces that will phase out slavery and replace it with a low-wage labor system similar to the industrial provinces, but in an agricultural context.  Seeing it as an assault on the Southern American way of life, the southern provinces revolt, and Lord Palmerston's hawkish instinct causes him to send British forces (still weary from the Second Opium War) to North America to deal with the uprising.  The Northern American provinces side overwhelmingly with the British.  The war ends in a British/Northern victory.  Due to the incident, the racist right in the American Southeast often harbors anti-British sentiment.  Successive British governments are afraid to grant dominion to America as a result, or even to Canada (since many believe the Québécois are likely to rebel as well).  It isn't until 1892 that America and Canada are given dominion/confederation.  
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« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 09:34:30 pm »
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I feel sorta bad for ssinf with the Southerners on this one. Tongue I guess it's all about whether you love the Revolutionary War or the Civil War more.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 09:44:36 pm »
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Prime Ministers of the American Commonwealth:
1. William McKinley-Conservative-1892-1900
2. William Jennings Bryan-1900-1902
3. Theodore Roosevelt-Liberal-1902-1907
4. Alton B. Parker-Liberal-1907-1912
5. Theodore Roosevelt-Progressive-1912-1914
6. Woodrow Wilson-Liberal-1914-1916
7. Theodore Roosevelt-Conservative-1916-1918
8. Eugene V. Debs-Socialist-1918-1926
9. Norman Thomas-Socialist-1926-1930
10. Herbert Hoover-Conservative-1930-1936
11. Franklin D. Roosevelt-Socialist-1936-1945
12. Henry A. Wallace-Socialist-1945-1948
13. Thomas E. Dewey-Conservative-1948-1955
14. Richard Nixon-Conservative-1955-1956
15. Henry A. Wallace-Socialist-1956-1958
16. Richard Nixon-Conservative-1958-1960
17. John F. Kennedy-Socialist-1960-1968
18. Richard Nixon-Conservative-1968-1974
19. Spirow Agnew-Conservative-1974-1976
20. Michael Harrington-Socialist-1976-1980
21. Ronald Reagan-Conservative-1980-1990
22. George H. W. Bush-Conservative-1991-1992
23. Bill Clinton-Socialist-1992-1999
24. Bernie Sanders-Socialist-1999-2004
25. Rudy Giuliani-Conservative-2004-2008
26. Barack Obama-Socialist-2008-present
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Before America officially gets its "independence," the British-held islands of Hawaii, which are to be given to America when it becomes independent, are taken over by Spain.  Britain cedes the islands out of indiference, since they now see it as "America's problem." The first parliamentary election in 1892 results in a victory for William McKinley's Conservative Party over Thomas F. Bayard's Liberal Party, James B. Weaver's western-agrarian Populist Party, WEB du Bois's Racial Equality Alliance, and Daniel de Leon's Socialist Party.  While McKinley's government does not seek a war with Spain over the Hawaiian islands, a certain naval incident causes a war between the two powers to break out.  The young and almost-accidentally appointed Secretary to the Navy, Theodore Roosevelt, emerges as a hero of the war.  The American side wins, and Roosevelt becomes a national hero.  In newspaper interviews, he professes an deep love for his newborn country, along with a deep compassion for the least fortunate.  He makes it clear that he dislikes Socialism and Populism, but he also is uncomfortable with Laissez faire capitalism.  Meanwhile, he is an extreme interventionist, making him an odd fit in any party.  The success of the war guarantees the re-election of McKinley's government.  A slowdown in economic growth causes a decline in the Conservatives' popularity. Theodore Roosevelt joins the Liberal Party as socioeconomic issues become more prominent, making a point of joining the social-liberal tendency of the party.  Maverick Liberal MP William Jennings Bryan challenges Bayard for the leadership of the Liberal Party, espousing a "popular liberalism" similar to the "new liberalism" that David Lloyd George would later bring about in Britain.  Though he dislikes Bryan's populist leanings, Roosevelt backs him, and he wins.  Roosevelt later enters the House of Commons in a by-election.  The election of 1900 brings about a Liberal government, a strong Conservative opposition, a still stronger Socialist party (under its new leader, Indianapolis MP Eugene V. Debs), and a total collapse in the number of Populist seats in the House.  Roosevelt is made Defense Minister.  While Bryan's government gets right to work improving conditions for western farmers, Bryan's work is tragically cut short due to his assassination at the hands of an anarchist in 1902.  Liberal MP's vote unanimously to make Roosevelt acting Liberal leader and PM, and he wins the permanent leadership of his party at its next conference.  
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Upon becoming PM, Roosevelt embarks upon progressive and left-of-center policies such as trust-busting, environmental conservation programs, business regulation, food regulations, and mandatory compensations by corporations for workplace-inflicted injuries.  His government is re-elected in 1904 with an increased majority, but in 1907, the classical-liberal wing of the Liberal Party decides that it has had enough.  Justice Minister Alton B. Parker challenges Roosevelt for the leadership of the Liberal Party.  To the nation's shock, he narrowly wins it.  Roosevelt retires to the backbenches.  The 1908 election results in a loss of many seats for the Liberals (due to low turnout as a result of anger), but they still keep a narrow majority.  Parker reverses much of Roosevelt's "anti-business" legislation and begins to look like another Conservative government.  After an unsuccessful attempt at winning back the leadership from Parker, Roosevelt and the other "Progressive" MPs in the Liberal caucus leave the government and form a new party, the "Progressive Party." They still support Parker's government in key votes (whenever Parker doesn't have Conservative backing?, which is rare), but they are now a seperate party.  Roosevelt and the Progressive Party win the 1912 election, though they fall short of a majority, so they form a minority government which relies on Socialist support.  TR's new government goes much further than his previous one had ever dared, granting universal suffrage, an 8-hour workday, a National Health Service, Social welfare programs, and a minimum wage.  He also holds a referendum on whether future elections to the House of Commons should be held through a Mixed-Member-Proportional system.  The result is a yes vote. 
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In 1914, however, when World War I breaks out, it becomes public that Roosevelt wishes to send American troops to Europe to fight in the war.  Outright pacifists such as Debs and all of his MPs, and Robert La Follette, and most of the Progressive MPs, oppose Roosevelt's decision and pull the plug on his government before he's able to declare war.  An early election is called, and at the last minute, La Follette and Roosevelt hold a caucus vote among MPs for the acting leadership of the party since it is now clear that Roosevelt no longer has the support of most Progressive MPs.  La Follette wins, and Roosevelt and a couple of his loyalists run as independents.  To everyone's surprise, the next election is won by Woodrow Wilson's Liberal Party.  Wilson has been a much-needed unifying figure within the Liberal Party, with his "new freedom" philosophy serving as a bridge between its factions.  Wilson pledges to keep America out of war "conditionally."  The Liberals get about 35% of the vote (and therefore, the seats as well).  The Conservatives, led by John W. Weeks, who are in favor of joining the war, get about 30%.  The Socialists get about 20%.  The Progressives get around 6%.  The Racial Equality Alliance wins about 6%.  Roosevelt is re-elected in his riding.  In the interest of stability, the Conservatives agree to support a Liberal minority government if it gives aid to the Allied Powers in Europe, and acts prepared to go to war upon the slightest provocation by the Central Powers.  Roosevelt then takes the shocking step of joining the Conservative party and caucus.  At the next leadership election, Weeks stands down for him, believing him to be the right man to lead America in war.  When the Lusitania is sunk, the Torries force a non-confidence motion, saying Wilson is unfit to lead America in wartime.  The motion passes, and due to war laws, the resulting  election is to be held one week later.  Roosevelt hypes himself up as the man who was right to believe that Germany would threaten us, and then the country falls in love with him.  The Conservatives win a landslide victory with 45% of the vote, and the Liberals, with 25% back them in order to form a pro-war unity government.  Roosevelt runs the war in a very aggressive way, ordering his generals to force their men into horrific battles, far worse than the ones in OTL.  The casualty rate is far more awful.  As a result, the war (and Roosevelt) quickly become extremely unpopular and Roosevelt, once so loved by the nation, becomes almost universally hated.  When the war is over, even before the treaty is signed, Wilson and the Liberals opt to save their skin and bring down the government, provoking yet another early election.  As a shock, the Socialists and Eugene V. Debs win the election with around 48% of the vote.  They then form a coalition with the Racial Equality Alliance.  Debs forces George Clemenceau to cave and give up his push for massive war reparations from Germany and the Treaty of Versailles is more balanced and less harsh than in OTL.  
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After the treaty of Versailes is signed, Debs then turns his attention to domestic issues.  His government announces sweeping nationalizations of all major steel, coal, oil, railway, postal, and other corporations, as well as banks, along with heavy investments in the welfare programs Roosevelt had started, and his nationsl health system, public infrastructure projects, a public pension scheme, large increases in education funding, and heavy taxes on the wealthy.  The Debs government also ends racial segregation in society and in unions, and makes a point of including African-Americans communities in its social projects.  Eventually, high deficits, and fear of the Soviet Union cause a decrease in the government's popularity.  Debs continually stresses his opposition to the bureaucratization of the USSR.  After winning the 1922 election with nearly 50% of the vote, the party suffers a loss in support in 1926 to 41%, though it is still the leading party.  It now has to rely on conditional support from former New York Premier Al Smith's Liberals.  Only half a year after that election, Debs dies of heart failure, leaving the acting Premiership to Deputy Socialist leader and Foreign Minister Norman Thomas.  Thomas is unable to live up to Debs's prestige or charisma.  While his government is crucial in helping to set up a binational Jewish-Arab state in Palestine after Stalinist pogroms force the world to consider a Jewish homeland, his pro-contraception views put him at odds with the vast majority of the American public at the time.  He looses the election of 1930 to Herbert Hoover's Conservative Party by a 38%-34% margain.  The Liberals, who fell to 11%, provide just enough seats for the Conservatives to form a coalition with them.  
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The Hoover government privatizes state assets, cuts the minimum wage, cuts education and health care funding, and cuts taxes for the wealthy.  It also deregulates the financial sector.  As a result, a small portion of the Liberal Party's left-wing (led by Jim Farley) splits off and goes to the Opposition benches.  Despite unpopularity, the government manages to hold on, with Norman Thomas leading the Socialists to defeat for the second time in 1934.  After that, the moderate social democrat Franklin D. Roosevelt challenges him to the leadership of the party.  FDR is viewed suspiciously by the party's left-wing (not least because he was a Liberal in the pre-WWI era), but he manages to win victory.  A small but influential portion of the Socialist Party's left-wing led by Louis B. Boudin breaks off in protest against FDR's policies.  In 1936, a stock market crash occurs as a result of Hoover's rigid market agenda (not as bad as 1929 in OTL, but worse than our 2008).  As a result, support for the Conservatives crumbles, but support for the Liberals completely collapses (think British Liberal Democrats in late 2010-early 2011 in OTL).  Knowing that the longer they stay in government, the more their support will crumble, the Liberals pull the plug on Hoover's government.  The 1936 election then results in a victory for the Socialists who score about 38% of the vote.  The Conservatives tumble to 20%, while the Liberals fall to 5% of the vote, behind their left-wing breakaway, the Social Liberal Party, which gets 7% of the vote.  The Socialists' left-wing breakaway, the Workers' Socialist Party, wins 3.5% of the vote.  William Z. Foster's Communist Party crosses the threshold for parliamentary representation with 3%.  A new white-southern based party known as the People's Party, led by David Bibb Graves (a former left-leaning Liberal who decided to form a party to fill a long-existing political gap) gets 18% of the vote.  This gives a narrow majority to the Socialist-Social Liberal-Workers' Socialist coalition which is formed after the election.  FDR does agree to renationalize the railways and post office companies which the previous government privatized and to reinstate tough regulations on the financial industry and Wall Street.  Eventually, the wealth taxes brought about by the government causes many former Social Liberal voters to switch their support back to the Liberals, who are now led by Edwin W. Pauley.  The 1940 election gives an increase in the Socialist Party's vote to 45%, while the Liberals recover to 8%.  The Conservatives, now lead by John Nance Garner, fall back slightly to 20% while the People's Party falls to 15%.  The Social Liberals fall to 4%, while the Workers' Socialists also fall slightly to the benefit of the Commies.  Nonetheless, the center-left coalition continues to lead the country.  In 1944, the Social Liberals fall slightly, so the coalition is reduced to a minority which relies on Liberal support.  The Conservatives also recover partially under the leadership of Thomas E. Dewey.  When FDR dies in 1945, the SP's deputy leader, Foreign Minister Henry Wallace, takes his place.  His New Age spiritual beliefs cause controversey, though he is better-liked by the party's left-wing than FDR had been.  However, the 1948 election results in a narrow victory for the Conservatives and Liberals again.  Dewey becomes PM.  
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Sorry about the very long hiatus.  I totally forgot about this.  
(Notes: in this timeline, the Nazis never came to power in Germany.  They were briefly the official opposition in the Reichstag, but they never came to power and soon faded as a political force.  Italy also did not turn towards Mussolini.  Japan did go fascist, and did invade Manchuria and then the rest of China as in our timeline, but did not attack the United States due to a lack of potential allies.  Its invasion of Vietnam succeeded thanks to a lack of French willingness to fight back).  

The Workers' Socialists merge back into the Socialist Party in opposition.  Wallace stays on as the party's leader.  As Prime Minister, Dewey keeps most of the Roosevelt/Wallace governments' reforms in place, and instead focuses on foreign policy.  On these grounds, the Social Liberals merge back into the Liberal Party, since a coalition with the Conservatives would now be much easier for them.  Dewey takes a tougher line against the Soviet Union and China, which underwent a Communist revolution in 1945.  He sends aid and weapons to the anti-communist French puppet government of Vietnam, and grudgingly recognizes Korea as a colony of Japan on the basis that it is, in his view, the only alternative to a Communist takeover on the peninsula.  (the Communist revolution in China had kicked out the Japanese military forces).  However, due to Japan's horrendous human rights record, he refrains from sending aid to the Japanese government.  He also pushes for Korean autonomy and the democratization of Japan itself.  The fascist government of Japan, however, rejects these conditions.  In a huge embarrassment, Dewey and Foreign Minister James Byrnes are left with no choice but to recognize Japanese sovereignty over Korea.  The Socialists' poll ratings shoot up as Wallace demands an end to the government's "double standards" where "an extremist authoritarian government is acceptable if it is right-extremist, but not if it is left-extremist." Many Liberals grow angry at what they perceive as incompetent leadership on Byrne's part, and a general feeling grows that he should be replaced.  Adlai Stevenson reluctantly challenges him for the party leadership and wins.  The Liberals leave the government, but they decide to abstain in the non-confidence vote that the Socialists force afterward so that the government remains in place (since the Torry votes would outnumber the Socialist votes in the House of Commons).  However, a Communist coup in Vietnam in 1951 turns American public opinion in favor of intervention.  The US swiftly invades Vietnam and fends off Chinese forces to establish a puppet government with Ngo Dinh Diem as President.  As a result, relations with France deteriorate, as they'd demanded the restoration of their own puppet government.  But Dewey had triumphed, guaranteeing his government's re-election the following year, still as a minority (though with many gains).  Wallace and Stevenson both stay on as Socialist and Liberal leaders, respectively.  To preserve his newfound popularity, Dewey warns Japan that any similar aggressions against a helpless country will be met with the same swift action.  Secretly, however, he is bluffing.  Things continue like this until 1955 when documents are leaked showing that the Dewey government is planning an attack on China, provoking outrage among a nation which only 38 years earlier experienced a horrific war and supported only a swift operation in a small country.  Immediately, the Conservatives' poll numbers fall more than 13 points behind those of the Socialists.  Wallace announces that the Socialists will introduce a non-confidence motion when the House returns to session in 5 days.  In a private meeting, Adlai Stevenson meets with the Conservative cabinet members and makes it clear that by the time the House reconvenes in 5 days, the Liberals will vote against the government unless 3 conditions are met: That the plans for an attack on China be completely dropped, that Dewey is replaced as Conservative leader and Prime Minister, and that he be replaced by someone other than the obvious front-runner, Defense Minister Dwight D. Eisenhower (who had been involved in drawing up the attack plans).  Immediately, Dewey offers his resignation.  Stevenson recommends Minnesota Premier Harold Stassen, as his successor, but due to his lack of a seat in the Commons and his leftish stances within the party, the cabinet ministers are cool to the idea.  Interior Minister Richard Nixon emerges as a compromise candidate.  The Conservative Caucus immediately elects him unanimously as their new leader.  Nixon vows that no government of his will attack China unless it invades a small helpless country such as Vietnam first.  Stevenson keeps his part of the bargain.  The Socialist motion of no confidence fails thanks to the Liberal abstention.  While Nixon's term in office is uneventful, the Torries do recover some of their poll standings.  However, they are unable to overcome the fallout over Dewey's plans.  The Socialists win the 1956 federal election, and Henry A. Wallace returns as Prime Minister.  Having led the Liberals in two federal elections, Stevenson resigns as Liberal leader.  W. Averell Harriman is elected as his successor.  Nixon stays on as Conservative leader.  Having evolved into something of an anti-communist social democrat in opposition, Wallace puts pressure on Japan, China, and the USSR to democratize and grant freedom to Korea.  He also passes more anti-segregation and anti-pay discrimination laws while in office.  However, in 1958, new letters are leaked to the press exposing his contacts with New Age clergy throughout the world, and the damage is irreversible.  Without giving the Socialists a chance to replace him, Harriman votes for the Conservative non-confidence motion introduced afterwards.  The Conservatives win the ensuing election on a pledge not to reverse Wallace's reforms.  Nixon returns as PM and the People's Party, now known as the American Party, gives him minority backing.  Wallace resigns as Socialist leader.  The young, moderate, and staunchly anti-communist MP John F. Kennedy wins the ensuing leadership election, besting the perceived front-runners, Lyndon Banes Johnson and Hubert Humphrey.  He manages to achieve UN sanctions, including crippling trade restrictions, on Japan, until Korea and all other Japanese colonies are freed and the country democratizes.  He meets Soviet aggression with the same force, as displayed in the 1962 Cuban missile crisis.  He also puts strong pressure on European powers to free their remaining colonies.  On the European front, the pressure succeeds.  Even France is unable to resist Kennedy's international push.  His government is re-elected in 1964.  At home, a civil rights act is passed in 1964 ensuring a total end to racial segregation, infuriating the American Party and its leader, George Wallace.  Health care, consumer rights, and welfare are also improved.  In 1966, a revolution breaks out in Korea.  The Kennedy government joins with the Soviets and Chinese in supporting the revolution.  The Japanese forces are driven out.  Afterwards, an interim government is established consisting of the right and left.  The first democratic elections give a clear victory to the center-right Democratic Republican Party of Park Chung-hee.  The Korean Workers' Party, led by Kim il-Sung, wins Official Opposition status.  The social democratic Progressive Party, led by Cho Bong-am wins a respectable third place.  However, in early 1968, a horrific discovery is made: the USSR has invented a so-called "atom bomb." Hysteria grips the United States.  Nixon capitalizes on this to claim that Kennedy has "let America fall behind." He wins the 1968 election, and Kennedy resigns as Socialist leader.  He is succeeded by his brother Robert, who beats Dakota MP George McGovern in a leadership election.  
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Upon his return as Prime Minister, Nixon quickly cuts social welfare and health care to fund increases in spending on nuclear programs.  Soon, the United States develops an atomic bomb of its own and pushes further.  The arms race ensues at a very fast pace.  The Nixon government is re-elected in 1972 in spite of an otherwise unbeatable opponent, RFK.  After 1972, the government continues on its hard line path.  However, new documents are leaked showing incontrovertible evidence of the Conservative Party stealing Socialist campaign information during the election.  Nixon denies it, but the clarity of his corruption is impossible to deny.  In 1974, he resigns as both Conservative Party leader and Prime Minister, being replaced in both capacities by his deputy leader, the even-more-right-wing Spirow Agnew.  With a 20-point poll-lead, RFK is assassinated in mysterious circumstances.  Michael Harrington is elected as his successor.  The 1976 election is won by the Socialists, though the Liberals also make large gains under their new uncharismatic, yet likable leader, Jimmy Carter, thanks to the perceived extremism of both Harrington and Agnew.  Harrington forms a minority government which relies on Liberal support.  Agnew resigns as Conservative leader, and is replaced by California Premier Ronald Reagan.  As the first truly democratic socialist Prime Minister since Thomas, Harrington has a difficult time getting Carter to support his plans, which include nationalizations of the railroads and oil companies.  Carter disallows these plans, though he does let Harrington push through increases in social spending.  Harrington also attempts to pursue mutual nuclear disarmament with the USSR, but a common perception is felt that any treaties that would be signed wouldn't be truly honored by the Russians.  His attempts to cut funding to nuclear weapons programs are blocked by Carter, and thanks to his increases in social welfare and health care spending, a large structural deficit develops, resulting in high inflation levels.  Harrington also cuts diplomatic ties with Iran, and says that they will only be restored when and if Iran democratizes.  The Shah then ends oil sales to the United States.  Oil prices surge.  Carter and the Liberals, however, refuse to pull the trigger and bring down the government ahead of schedule, resulting in a major drop in Liberal support.  In 1979, the Iranian revolution breaks out, and Harrington expresses hope for a democratic outcome.  However, with Khomeini becoming Iran's new leader, Harrington is embarrassed.  In 1980, the Conservative Party, lead by Ronald Reagan, scores a massive landslide victory and forms a coalition with the American Party, now led by Strom Thurmond.  Harrington resigns as SPA leader, and Walter Mondale is elected as his successor.  Due to a very bad result for the Liberals, Carter resigns.  Gary Hart is elected as his successor.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2012, 05:31:29 am »
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Reagan forms a coalition with Strom Thurmond's American Party and embarks on a neoliberal agenda of tax cuts for the wealthy, sharp spending cuts privatizations, and deregulation.  He also heavily invests in an arms buildup.  His violent interventions against democratically elected left-leaning governments earn him notoriety throughout the world.  He is re-elected in 1984, after which Mondale resigns and is replaced by Ted Kennedy.  The Green Party, led by Ralph Nader, also gets into the House of Commons for the first time in 1984.  Reagan's second term sees a perceived weakening of the Soviet Union.   His government is re-elected yet again in 1988.  Kennedy resigns and is replaced by Arkansas Premier Bill Clinton.  Reagan's government finally appears to be rusty, and in spite of the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, his poll numbers are also collapsing.  He resigns in 1991.  George H. W. Bush is elected as his successor.  In spite of his handling of the Gulf War, he is unable to turn around the low poll numbers he inherited from Reagan.  He looses the 1992 election to Clinton's Socialists and Evan Bayh's Liberals, who then form a coalition together.  Bush resigns and is replaced by Bob Dole.  
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      In spite of many new investments in education and health care, Clinton keeps most of Reagan's economic reforms intact, sparking open revolt from his party's left-wing, led by Vermont Premier Bernie Sanders.  Nonetheless, the government is re-elected in 1996.  The Socialists hold steady, gaining a significant amount of left-leaning Liberal voters while loosing many left-wing voters to the Greens, led by Winona LaDuke.  Sanders, who has retired as Premier of Vermont, is also elected to parliament, putting pressure on Clinton to turn left.  Dole resigns as Conservative leader, and is replaced by John McCain.   Upon the resignation of Henry Sicneros, Sanders is appointed Housing Minister in 1997.  He warns Clinton that any cuts to welfare will lead to his resignation.  In 1998, Clinton cuts welfare for single mothers, and Sanders makes good on his word.  Outcry within the Socialist Party causes Sanders to challenge Clinton for the leadership of the party.  To most people's surprise, he wins.  Clinton retires.  
      Sanders wins the 2000 election against Conservative leader John McCain, ditches the Liberals, and forms a coalition with the Greens.  Sanders regulates the stock market in a very tough manner, and sets up an ecologically-friendly high-speed rail system.  He also legalizes same-sex marriage, expands welfare benefits to where they were in the Harrington era, and forces corporations to become more accountable to their employees and consumers.  However, in 2001, an attack on the World Trade Center causes the Sanders government to send stealth swat teams to hunt down Osama bin Laden and quickly overthrow the Taliban government.  Thanks to a quick operation, the Taliban are defeated and bin Laden is captured.  However, after US troops leave in late 2002, the Taliban resurfaces.  This contributes to a huge increase in support for the Conservatives, now led by former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani.  He advocates further action in both Afghanistan and Pakistan to ensure that Al-Qaeda is defeated.  On this platform, he wins the 2004 election.  He then forms a coalition with the Liberals, now led by Joe Lieberman.  Sanders quits, and Barack Obama is elected as his successor.  
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2012, 01:19:18 pm »
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Giuliani sends more troops into Afghanistan and invades Iraq in 2006.  He soon becomes very unpopular due to proof that his premise for invading Iraq was false. Support for the Liberals also crumbles.  In 2008, the Socialists win back power under Obama. Giuliani resigns as Tory leader.  Mitt Romney is elected to replace him.  Lieberman also resigns and is replaced by Tom Vilsack.  Obama forms a coalition with Matt Gonzales's Green Party.  So far, he would have been criticized for perceived weakness and a strong willingness to compromise with the opposition, but there would (as of yet) be little desire among the SPA to replace him.  
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2012, 01:59:32 pm »
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did stalin legalize gay marridge?

No, because he was a FAKE LEFTIST!!!
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There is a lot of humor to be mined from this as the mind of LBJ in the body of an 18 month old baby girl is quite hilarious.

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