MI: Foster McCollum White & Associates: Obama with a 2% Lead (within the MoE); Ficano Hurting Obama
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« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2012, 12:05:11 AM »


Irrelevant.
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« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2012, 12:09:26 AM »


How can a later question effect the way someone answered a previous question?
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« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2012, 12:11:19 AM »


I wasn't referring to the previous question.
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« Reply #28 on: June 15, 2012, 12:20:11 AM »

Who are these Foster McCollum White & Associates people? How are their number so exact?
They use a measure of how hard people push the buttons on their phone. This allows them to have more exactness than would typically be possible from their sample size.
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« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2012, 02:06:25 PM »

Also, I believe this poll was commissioned by FOX 2 Detroit.

WJBK-TV (Detroit channel 2) is indeed an owned-and-operated station of the FoX Network.  
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« Reply #30 on: June 15, 2012, 03:44:44 PM »
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Then how exactly is anyone being pushed in this poll?  You have two unrelated questions - the horse race question followed by a question asking whether a local scandal affected your answer to the horse race question.  Nobody was pushed to answer anything.  The local scandal question is designed to gauge to what extent a local scandal hurts up ticket voters - negative reverse coattails.

A push poll is one where a pollster first asks something like "Candidate X has been known to beat his wife.  Would that make you more or less likely to vote for Candidate X?", usually followed by similar questions that cast a negative light on Candidate X, followed by the horse race question (i.e. "If the election were held today, would you vote for X or Y?").  All the negative information about X pushes on-the-fence voters to say they'd vote for Y, even if they would have voted for X had the horse race question been asked first or previous questions had given a more balanced view of candidate X.  There was no push polling here, because the horse race question was asked first.
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« Reply #31 on: June 15, 2012, 06:15:36 PM »


Then how exactly is anyone being pushed in this poll?  You have two unrelated questions - the horse race question followed by a question asking whether a local scandal affected your answer to the horse race question.  Nobody was pushed to answer anything.  The local scandal question is designed to gauge to what extent a local scandal hurts up ticket voters - negative reverse coattails.

A push poll is one where a pollster first asks something like "Candidate X has been known to beat his wife.  Would that make you more or less likely to vote for Candidate X?", usually followed by similar questions that cast a negative light on Candidate X, followed by the horse race question (i.e. "If the election were held today, would you vote for X or Y?").  All the negative information about X pushes on-the-fence voters to say they'd vote for Y, even if they would have voted for X had the horse race question been asked first or previous questions had given a more balanced view of candidate X.  There was no push polling here, because the horse race question was asked first.

Bringing up one party's scandals in a poll is very similar to campaigning on the scandals, even if the previous question wasn't asked second.  So no, maybe they didn't ask the second question first so that it would show up in their polls, but that doesn't mean the horse race question changed voters' opinions afterwards, and that alone hurts this poll's credibility.
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« Reply #32 on: June 17, 2012, 10:50:49 AM »

It doesn't meet the definition of a "push poll" because a push poll is a campaign tactic masquerading as a poll. However, it's a biased poll because of the way it's constructed and probably designed that way to give the Fox station a good headline number to run on.
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« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2012, 11:11:26 PM »

Michigan is trending R steadily though.
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2012, 11:15:27 PM »

Also, I believe this poll was commissioned by FOX 2 Detroit.

WJBK-TV (Detroit channel 2) is indeed an owned-and-operated station of the FoX Network.  

And have you ever observed conservative bias from WJBK?
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