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« on: June 15, 2012, 11:54:11 am »
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Updated 12:20 p.m. - The Obama administration announced on Friday that it would no longer seek the deportation of most young illegal immigrants, and would instead allow them to apply for work permits, a significant policy shift with potentially major electoral implications.
The Department of Homeland Security said that, effective immediately, the government would no longer seek the deportation of illegal immigrants who were brought to the United States as children, and would allow them to apply for work permits if they meet certain criteria.
“Our nation’s immigration laws must be enforced in a firm and sensible manner,” said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano in a statement Friday.

A senior administration official said in a conference call with reporters that as many as 800,000 undocumented immigrants stand to benefit from this change. Napolitano said that the shift represented neither immunity nor amnesty -- buzzwords for conservatives who oppose illegal immigration -- but instead represented an instance of "prosecutorial discretion" in which the government had re-evaluated its priorities in enforcing the law.

The announcement represented a major policy shift, and its political implications will be significant.

The shift essentially accomplishes many of the legislative intentions of the DREAM Act, an immigration reform bill that had stalled in Congress due to Republican objections. President Barack Obama favors the legislation, while presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has said he would veto that law.

The new rule comes amid a bruising election year fight between Obama and Romney, in which the Latino vote could be decisive. Obama enjoys a strong advantage with Latino voters, winning 61 percent of Latinos vs. 27 percent for Romney in a mid-May NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Telemundo poll.

The Hispanic vote is of particular importance in swing states like Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Florida, among others. Those states could swing the election toward Obama or Romney, elevating the importance of the margin between the two candidates with Latino voters.
Obama's biggest challenge, though, has involved motivating Latino voters to turn out for him with the same strength they had in 2008. The president had faced lingering complaints stemming from his inability to advance the comprehensive immigration reform he had promised as a candidate in 2008.

The president was scheduled to make remarks about the immigration policy change at the White House at 1:15 p.m. ET on Friday.

In a memorandum to immigration enforcement officials, Napolitano wrote that immigrants who were illegally brought to the United States as children "lacked the intent to violate the law," and pose few national security risks.

The memo said the government would not pursue immigrants who met five criteria. Individuals must:
-Have come to the United States under the age of 16,
-Be no older than 30,
-Be currently enrolled in school, have graduated high school or served in the military,
-Have been in the country for five continuous years, and
-Have a clean criminal record.

A senior administration official noted that the new rules were not permanent, though, and conceded that a different administration with a different policy could conceivably choose to withdraw this regulation.

"The executive can always change its mind about how to exercise discretion," said the official.
That hard-line stance prompted handwringing among Republicans who have long worried about the long-term political fallout associated with alienating Latino voters. Florda Gov. Jeb Bush suggested earlier this week that much of the Republican rhetoric surrounding immigration had been "insulting."

"Change the tone would be the first thing," he said of his advice to Republicans. "Second, on immigration, I think we need to have a broader approach."

Ironically, the Obama administration's new rule would accomplish many of the same goals of a limited version of the DREAM Act proposed by Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, which stops short of offering young illegal immigrants citizenship, but gives them a type of legal status. Romney said he was considering the proposal from Rubio, a popular choice of conservatives to round out the Republican ticket as a vice presidential nominee.

In a statement, Rubio straddled praise and criticism for the move.
"Today’s announcement will be welcome news for many of these kids desperate for an answer, but it is a short term answer to a long term problem," he said. "And by once again ignoring the Constitution and going around Congress, this short term policy will make it harder to find a balanced and responsible long term one."
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 12:01:33 pm »
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Just read this. I'm stunned. The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 12:02:23 pm »
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Just read this. I'm stunned. The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.

Stunned? JNap wrote the memo last year. Another shiny object.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 12:03:37 pm »
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Just read this. I'm stunned. The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.

Good look winning the Hispanic vote!
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 12:08:09 pm »
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Just read this. I'm stunned. The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.

Good look winning the Hispanic vote!

That's like saying, "Good luck winning the black vote!"

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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 12:11:32 pm »
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Just read this. I'm stunned. The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.

Good look winning the Hispanic vote!

That's like saying, "Good luck winning the black vote!"

Well, blacks are a lot more Dem than Hispanics, but still....90% vs 75%? Landslide victory, either way. Smiley

And your party seriously needs to pick up some Hispanic votes if it wants to survive demographically.
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 12:25:35 pm »
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I'm watching the white vote. I read that Obama's campaign is most fearful of alienating white voters. Does he really want to begin a second term having lost 60-70% of whites?
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« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 12:26:36 pm »
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Whites are a spent force, Mike. There will not be another White president in your lifetime. Deal with it.
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« Reply #8 on: June 15, 2012, 12:41:09 pm »
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Obama has still deported far more illegal immigrants than Bush.
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« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 01:02:32 pm »
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I'm watching the white vote. I read that Obama's campaign is most fearful of alienating white voters. Does he really want to begin a second term having lost 60-70% of whites?

LOLNO, Obama won't be losing 70% of the White vote. I don't think even McGovern did that badly. Yup, just looked it up on Gallup- McGovern got 32%. Still terrible, but this isn't 1972.

Looking objectively, I don't see this backfiring at all. Obama either gains or breaks even with this announcement. He breaks even if he loses the same amount of votes among whites that he gains among hispanics. But I have a feeling that the white democrats who might be angered by this are the type who probably didn't even vote for him in 2008.

And honestly, doesn't this policy make more sense? He may be doing it as a campaign tactic, but at least it's one that will make life easier for a lot of people. These young folks likely didn't have any choice in their parents' decision to immigrate. They're contributing members to society, most of them go to school, work or serve in the military. They deserve to stay here.
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« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2012, 01:23:28 pm »
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More troubling, I think, is that this is a clear example of Obama absolutely pandering for the Hispanic vote.
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« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2012, 01:32:40 pm »
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More troubling, I think, is that this is a clear example of Obama absolutely pandering for the Hispanic vote.

How do you define "pandering" vs. "absolutely pandering"?

Presidents do stuff to encourage people to vote for them. There are shameful policies, there are embarrassing ones, and then there are efforts that wouldn't have happened if not for the election but people are glad they did. I can think of many worse examples than this, and this has the benefit of being good policy.
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« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2012, 01:33:58 pm »
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The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.

The Romney campaign absolutely does not want this issue discussed again now that he's won the primary and has already banked the votes of the Anglos who vote on this issue. He's busy trying to reach out to Latinos and repair the damage he did by attacking all of his opponents (Gingrich and Perry in particular) from the right on immigration.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2012, 01:35:26 pm »
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More troubling, I think, is that this is a clear example of Obama absolutely pandering for the Hispanic vote.

Agree, btw Obama just got heckled by a reporter in the Rose Garden.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2012, 01:37:32 pm »
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This isn't politically popular, but it was the right thing to do.

The old policy wasn't working. At all.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2012, 01:43:50 pm »
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Here's the Republican website that sent the reporter to heckle Obama.

http://dailycaller.com/
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2012, 01:47:34 pm »
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Here's the Republican website that sent the reporter to heckle Obama.

http://dailycaller.com/

The right-wing brain trust sure knows how to squander whatever political advantage they might have otherwise gained.
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Here's the Republican website that sent the reporter to heckle Obama.

http://dailycaller.com/

The right-wing brain trust sure knows how to squander whatever political advantage they might have otherwise gained.

This is the tactic this summer - like when they sent a van to circle his Cleveland speech and blast its horn, or they disrupted the Axelrod speech in Boston. They're trying to get him to react and act up so they can then use it against him.
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 02:00:41 pm »
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Whites are a spent force, Mike. There will not be another White president in your lifetime. Deal with it.

Don't worry, Mike, you can always consider pulling Michael Jackson in reverse in order to fulfill your political ambitions.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2012, 02:01:45 pm »
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoo1efMSYhs&feature=player_embedded

Wow. Is the President really that gray or is that the sun hitting his head?
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Wow. Is the President really that gray or is that the sun hitting his head?

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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2012, 02:10:47 pm »
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More troubling, I think, is that this is a clear example of Obama absolutely pandering for the Hispanic vote.

Agree, btw Obama just got heckled by a reporter in the Rose Garden.

I just saw the part of the speech where he was heckled. Disgusting.

What a perfect example of the breakdown in civil discourse in this country. And once again, there are people on the other side who refuse to give an ounce of respect or deference to Obama and the office he holds. And everyone knows why this is.

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« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2012, 02:28:44 pm »
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Just read this. I'm stunned. The Romney campaign is going to be doing backflips.

Good look winning the Hispanic vote!

That's like saying, "Good luck winning the black vote!"


I know I shouldn't take you seriously but this post is embarrassing.
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« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2012, 02:51:57 pm »
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Steve King, one of the Iowa representative plans to sue the Obama administration over the new immigration policy.
http://dailycaller.com/2012/06/15/rep-steve-king-to-sue-obama-administration-over-new-immigration-policy/#disqus_thread
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« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2012, 03:12:09 pm »
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Why is this controversial? America is a better country than one that tosses people aside for something their parents did.
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