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« on: June 15, 2012, 10:10:22 pm »
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My friend and I were talking about the election, and he came up with this silly but yet interesting analogy. Do you really think Mitt Romney is the Bill Clinton of the left? I can see why but I don't have time to type much right now.
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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2012, 10:14:04 pm »
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Today's Mitt Romney absolutely is not. Now the one who tried to run to Ted Kennedy's left in 1994.....
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2012, 10:26:49 pm »
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If you took away Bill Clinton's glad-handing, empathy, social skills and licentiousness.
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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2012, 10:48:05 pm »
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Are there any sex scandals and other examples of marital infidelity regarding Mitt Romney that we haven't heard about, yet? 
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2012, 10:55:07 pm »
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2012, 11:18:48 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2012, 11:21:30 pm »
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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2012, 12:08:34 am »
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Lol at Mitt Romney being anything but a robot.
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2012, 04:49:07 am »
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Bill Clinton is a good politician.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 11:10:56 am »
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Are there any sex scandals and other examples of marital infidelity regarding Mitt Romney that we haven't heard about, yet? 

I think Romney is scandal prone, but not sex a scandal though.
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2012, 11:29:19 am »
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Bill Clinton was the Bill Clinton of the right.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2012, 11:34:34 am »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.
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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2012, 11:55:01 am »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 12:00:13 pm »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh

Integrity is a wide term, not limited for private affairs.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2012, 12:07:54 pm »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh

Integrity is a wide term, not limited for private affairs.

Yeah, it means adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. And this is used to describe... Bill Clinton of all people. Really? Really? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2012, 12:13:27 pm »
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Bill Clinton stuck to his policy principles, by infusing the economy with capital gains tax cuts and cutting welfare.  Romney is simply trying to have it both ways criticize Obama for health care reform mandate and running on it the same time. He also flipped flopped on abortion as well, said won't ban abortion in MA. That's why he's gonna have a hard time winning.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2012, 01:01:14 pm »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh

Integrity is a wide term, not limited for private affairs.

Yeah, it means adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. And this is used to describe... Bill Clinton of all people. Really? Really? Roll Eyes

What goes on in a politician's personal life bears no relevance to me.  And besides, Ken Starr's investigation of the scandal was far more unethical and deceptive than anything Clinton's ever said.
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« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2012, 01:23:49 pm »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh

Integrity is a wide term, not limited for private affairs.

Yeah, it means adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. And this is used to describe... Bill Clinton of all people. Really? Really? Roll Eyes

What goes on in a politician's personal life bears no relevance to me.  And besides, Ken Starr's investigation of the scandal was far more unethical and deceptive than anything Clinton's ever said.

It may not matter to you, but it does to most Americans.  This isn't France.  What most foreigners (and quite a few American liberals, apparently) don't understand, is that in America, when you become a public official, your life instantly comes under greater scrutiny.  You bear a greater responsibility to uphold your office in every aspect including your private life because we as citizens have higher expectations of you since you are representing us.  How you conduct your private affairs reflect on your public role.  There is no line of separation between the two.  When you fall short, the consequences are that much greater.  
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« Reply #18 on: June 16, 2012, 01:25:52 pm »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh

Integrity is a wide term, not limited for private affairs.

Yeah, it means adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. And this is used to describe... Bill Clinton of all people. Really? Really? Roll Eyes

What goes on in a politician's personal life bears no relevance to me.  And besides, Ken Starr's investigation of the scandal was far more unethical and deceptive than anything Clinton's ever said.

It may not matter to you, but it does to most Americans.  This isn't France.  What most foreigners (and quite a few American liberals, apparently) don't understand, is that in America, when you become a public official (especially as a Congressman or as the President of the United States) your life instantly comes under greater scrutiny.  You bear a greater responsibility to uphold your office in every aspect including your private life because we as citizens have higher expectations of you since you are representing us.  How you conduct your private affairs reflect on your public role.  There no line of separation between the two.  When you fall short, the consequences are that much greater.  

No it doesn't.  It only matters to right-wing media pundits who are still trying to turn it into the next Watergate.  It didn't work then, it isn't working now, and public opinion polls indicate that the public has apparently forgiven the incident.  When you're elected to public office, your responsibilities are merely to represent and govern efficiently.  Being a faithful husband is completely independent and irrelevant to those.
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« Reply #19 on: June 16, 2012, 03:47:30 pm »
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I'll take an adulterer who's not living under a glass jar over heartless venture capitalist, who never interacted with working people other than his home servants every day.
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 04:16:34 pm »
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No, Bill Clinton is a leader and a man of integrity.  There should be no comparison.

"A man of integrity"? The guy had an affair while in office and then lied about it under oath and Mitt Romney can't compare to him because of his integrity?  Huh

Integrity is a wide term, not limited for private affairs.

Yeah, it means adherence to moral and ethical principles; soundness of moral character; honesty. And this is used to describe... Bill Clinton of all people. Really? Really? Roll Eyes

What goes on in a politician's personal life bears no relevance to me.  And besides, Ken Starr's investigation of the scandal was far more unethical and deceptive than anything Clinton's ever said.

It may not matter to you, but it does to most Americans.  This isn't France.  What most foreigners (and quite a few American liberals, apparently) don't understand, is that in America, when you become a public official (especially as a Congressman or as the President of the United States) your life instantly comes under greater scrutiny.  You bear a greater responsibility to uphold your office in every aspect including your private life because we as citizens have higher expectations of you since you are representing us.  How you conduct your private affairs reflect on your public role.  There no line of separation between the two.  When you fall short, the consequences are that much greater.  

No it doesn't.  It only matters to right-wing media pundits who are still trying to turn it into the next Watergate.  It didn't work then, it isn't working now, and public opinion polls indicate that the public has apparently forgiven the incident.  When you're elected to public office, your responsibilities are merely to represent and govern efficiently.  Being a faithful husband is completely independent and irrelevant to those.

I don't know Scott, the fact that Clinton's affair was with an intern adds a creepy and highly inappropriate dynamic that I'm not comfortable with, and it certainly lowers my opinion of Clinton somewhat... not that it would have been especially high otherwise - I'll concede to thinking Clinton's the most overrated President in the last hundred years or so. Tongue
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2012, 04:21:45 pm »
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Did someone just say the words "Clinton" and "Principles" in the same sentence without a negative? Must be referring to George.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2012, 04:24:16 pm »
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Did someone just say the words "Clinton" and "Principles" in the same sentence without a negative? Must be referring to George.

^ This is a good post. If Bill Clinton made a P-Funk record it would be spectacularly awful, too.

But, yeah, seriously, claiming that Bill Clinton's a "man of integrity" is pretty funny. I don't like Romney, but I'd give him the edge over Bubba on this one.
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2012, 04:25:31 pm »
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Did someone just say the words "Clinton" and "Principles" in the same sentence without a negative? Must be referring to George.

^ This is a good post. If Bill Clinton made a P-Funk record it would be spectacularly awful, too.

But, yeah, seriously, claiming that Bill Clinton's a "man of integrity" is pretty funny. I don't like Romney, but I'd give him the edge over Bubba on this one.

No, that's just mean.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2012, 04:34:52 pm »
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Bill Clinton stuck to his policy principles, by infusing the economy with capital gains tax cuts and cutting welfare.  Romney is simply trying to have it both ways criticize Obama for health care reform mandate and running on it the same time. He also flipped flopped on abortion as well, said won't ban abortion in MA. That's why he's gonna have a hard time winning.
Obama has flipped on the following: Immigration, Gitmo, and even flipped on the wars and even the Bush Tax Cuts a little bit. So its a flip against a flop!
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