France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism

[MaxQue]

A Jewish municipal councillor in Créteil has been murdered in his apartment.

Police doesn't exclude antisemitism as a mobile.

Let's say I'm troubled.

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Christiane Taubira resigns. The last minister who wasn't complete sh**t (that bad).

[DavidB.]

Question: why do left-wing French posters seem to hate PS so much?

[MaxQue]

Question: why do left-wing French posters seem to hate PS so much?

Because gay marriage is pretty much the only thing in their program they accomplished?

Rest of term was liberal reforms to appease Merkel/employer association/EU/"increase competivity".

Their European policy is also pretty much always side with Merkel and berate Italy for trying to organise a left-wing alternative. Also, endorsing ND over SYRIZA and complaning about the "unstable" left-wing coalition in Portugal.

And now, they want to authorize a permanent state of emergency and lower civil liberties (allowing raids without warrants, among other things) because "Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan". Also, they used the anti-terrorist legislation (passed after November events) to do raids and arrest people in ecologist organisations opposing expropriations and construction of a big airport in Nantes. Also, they pretty much tried to ban all demonstrations, because "national security".

Really, I don't see why left-wingers would be annoyed.

[MalaspinaGold]

Question: why do left-wing French posters seem to hate PS so much?

Because gay marriage is pretty much the only thing in their program they accomplished?

Rest of term was liberal reforms to appease Merkel/employer association/EU/"increase competivity".

Their European policy is also pretty much always side with Merkel and berate Italy for trying to organise a left-wing alternative. Also, endorsing ND over SYRIZA and complaning about the "unstable" left-wing coalition in Portugal.

And now, they want to authorize a permanent state of emergency and lower civil liberties (allowing raids without warrants, among other things) because "Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan". Also, they used the anti-terrorist legislation (passed after November events) to do raids and arrest people in ecologist organisations opposing expropriations and construction of a big airport in Nantes. Also, they pretty much tried to ban all demonstrations, because "national security".

Really, I don't see why left-wingers would be annoyed.

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In their defence, this is a moderation of the PS' historic position towards angry greenies.

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POISON DWARF UNDER FORMAL INVESTIGATION

[Antonio the Sixth]

[The Last Northerner]

Hopefully this sinks any chance of a Sarko comeback and the UMP/LR can nominate a respectable candidate.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Paid vacation, reduced working time, social dialog, Blum would vote FN

From Sciences-Po FN, 'with love'

http://www.liberation.fr/direct/element/le-compte-twitter-du-fn-sciences-po-sapproprie-leon-blum_31168/

I discovered it in the same time than Philippot on itélé a few mins ago, he and I were like...bouche bée: ...during a few secs, and then he quite quite proudly said 'Yeah, yeah, that's it, that's right'...

Welcome in the XX1st century!

Hopefully this sinks any chance of a Sarko comeback and the UMP/LR can nominate a respectable candidate.

C'mon, we're in France, this man...

...is actually offering his brilliant personality to presidential primaries, everything is possible.

Question: why do left-wing French posters seem to hate PS so much?

Because gay marriage is pretty much the only thing in their program they accomplished?

Rest of term was liberal reforms to appease Merkel/employer association/EU/"increase competivity".

Their European policy is also pretty much always side with Merkel and berate Italy for trying to organise a left-wing alternative. Also, endorsing ND over SYRIZA and complaning about the "unstable" left-wing coalition in Portugal.

And now, they want to authorize a permanent state of emergency and lower civil liberties (allowing raids without warrants, among other things) because "Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan". Also, they used the anti-terrorist legislation (passed after November events) to do raids and arrest people in ecologist organisations opposing expropriations and construction of a big airport in Nantes. Also, they pretty much tried to ban all demonstrations, because "national security".

Really, I don't see why left-wingers would be annoyed.

Yeah, pretty good summation, to which you can add the new law on labour which has just been published and that managed to make even CFDT angry and ally CGT.

Lately I was actually wondering wether that administration wouldn't be the most rightist ever seen in the Vth, and I only speak from an economical point of view, when you add all the security and nationalistic stuffs we're enjoying for a couple of months, woohoo!

One could even wonder wether they wouldn't be the most rightist administration amongst the IIIrd and the IVth too...

And Valls shuting all possibility of debate on anything.

I tend to make the bet that he's making the [daring!] bet that the Left gonna lose the next Prés', then he should pass the hardest possible measures, so that the right benefits from people anger, and then he can well prepare his opposition leadership during 5 years and then come back as the 'Great French Schröeder that took all brave tough measures for the good of the country', betting it would give the same economical results than in Germany in the coming years.

Regardless it screws all possible constructive political and economical debate in the country (for what there is still left to be screwed...).

Politicians politicianizing.

He might actually be convinced that he's making the right choices 'for the country'.

This 'wanna be Clémenceau' has an hard time hiding his ego though (and then we're back to the 1910s again, heck...).

Welcome to the XXIst century...

[RogueBeaver]

Panzerdaddy endorses Trump.

[The Last Northerner]

How is his daughter going to react?

[RogueBeaver]

Cool piece on increased interest in Army reserve service. Wonder what the numbers are for the Marine and Armee de l'Air.

[Antonio the Sixth]

How is his daughter going to react?

They already hate each other, and Panzerdaddy has gone out of his way to piss off his daughter, so that's not surprising.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So yeah, they arrested one of the main people behind the November attacks. Good.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Cool piece on increased interest in Army reserve service. Wonder what the numbers are for the Marine and Armee de l'Air.

Yeeeah

I'm thirsty of adventure for those hungry of liberty
I'm the keeper of priceless values
Always united, never alone
I stay awoken in order you sleep quietly
I want to be the new breath after the storm
Always standing up, I go ahead to make the fear stepping back
Here
There
And further, I'll always go ahead in order Men never step back

The Armée de Terre recruits 15.000 soldiers
Your will, our job

And you missed all the rhymes.

Well, isn't it cool to have réservistes?

Lots of people, no money to give!

Well, when you wanna really be hired by the army, it's not that simple, I tried last year, more answering to a job offer, and for curiosity than for a sudden so called 'patriotism', but oho, 2 years too old, and no way to negocy anything, regardless what you apply for isn't physical at all.

For Marine and Air, I doubt they got réservistes, this needs too much qualifiactions.

The other very big recruitment spot being Gendarmerie, France doubled its new jobs in it since 2015, 13.500 people to recruit with 47% more candidates too.

Beginning of March, first post-attacks Gendarmerie examination, 3.700 jobs, 24.000 people

Ah and, a little cool thing that happened in France recently...

The région that is right at the top of the map, now officially has a name, you will have to call it 'Haut-de-france' (how would you translate that? 'High of France'? 'Higher France'? whatever).

Finally something fancy that comes out of this totally pointless and backward regional mess.



Other than that, less  fancy, apparently the right also drops De Gaulle legacy on Algérie...

[RogueBeaver]

Panzergirl was in town here today, and got some young Pequistes in serious trouble. Not the first time there's been an incident involving the FN and young Pequistes either.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

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Hauts-de-France!

Ah, and, please, 'PQ', change this name...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Oh and, still on new names, Juppé had made this actual propostion for Aquitaine-Poitou-Charentes-Limousin:

Aliénor Duchy

...

yaaaaaaaaaaaaay graddy!

Well, thankfully he admitted, that 'maybe it was a bit passeist'...

Most people would go for 'Great Aquitaine' for this.

Historically relevant enough, but, personally, from a far more Charentais than Bordelais point of view, I'd go with...

Quichenotte!l



Quichenotte...kichenotte...kiss not...

Lots of historical interractions with British outhere you know...

And when you see that any historical building in Charente is about throwing Brits away, while Bordelais always enjoyed them to sell (and well, to make...) their wine.

Charentais didn't need them to sell their salt...

But Bordeaux surrenderers would screw anything thanks those new pointless overbig regions.

'Décentralisation'

[The Last Northerner]

Flanby honors Saudi Prince

Seriously?

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

It's 'flamby', there is always a 'm' before a 'b'.

Even Nestlé respected French spelling rules for this 'name'.

And since François Hollande is the less awkward person on Earth, they indeed tried to make that the most discretely possible, and, indeed, the more they tried to hide it, the more people who heard about that tried to say it loudly, and in the end everybody loudly heard about that, and it didn't look awkward...at all.

Strike those who behead people on TV, reward those who do that offline.

Originally you could buy medals, back to the point. People might appreciate the worth of their Légion d'Honneur now. Sold out. Sold?? Bah ouais, c'est les soldes, tout doit disparaître!

...oohoohoooo...

[The Last Northerner]

Moderate hero flamby doesn't want to revoke citizenship from terrorist suspects anymore... sounds like the deportation of that school girl all over again.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Moderate hero flamby doesn't want to revoke citizenship from terrorist suspects anymore... sounds like the deportation of that school girl all over again.

Thank God he abandoned that monstrosity.

Still, the fact that he even had the gall to bring it up made me lose any remnant of respect I had for him.

[RogueBeaver]

80% of voters don't want Flamby to run again, including a majority of Socialists. For some reason French presidents can never leave office voluntarily with a good approval rating...

[Antonio the Sixth]

80% of voters don't want Flamby to run again, including a majority of Socialists. For some reason French presidents can never leave office voluntarily with a good approval rating...

The depressing thing is that people seem to want that piece of sh*t Valls to run instead.

[Hash]

80% of voters don't want Flamby to run again, including a majority of Socialists. For some reason French presidents can never leave office voluntarily with a good approval rating...

The depressing thing is that people seem to want that piece of sh*t Valls to run instead.