France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism

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Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

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Greenies won't be part of the Valls government despite Valls's promise to create a 'big' environment ministry including transport and energy matters, to give them three portfolios and to introduce a bit of proportional representation.

Perhaps this will be a blessing in disguise for EELV, who can try and grab some protest votes from disenchanted left-wingers who dislike Vallis.

Are EELV's polls purely because they were attached to Hollande, or did they do some other dreadful electoral faux pas?

They are polling very decently for a government party.

aren't they predicted to lose like half their MEP's?

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Corsica valiantly clinging to Jean long after it had gone out of fashion. adorable

Also WTF Kevin?

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What's happening to the departments under the new reforms? I was under the apprehension they were perpetually under the chop.

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How horrible. The little amount of debate - and the debate which did take place was total horsecrap - on this issue (which is important) is totally and utterly depressing. Nobody even questioned the rationale of this project or its effects.

The 'Socialist' parliamentarians, except the 27 who abstained and the lone 8 who were sensible enough to vote against, just voted like sheep without questioning anything. Parti de godillots, pays de merde...

On this note, there's absolutely no chance that I'll vote for the "left"/"Socialists" in the runoff in 2017. This pathetic bunch of losers, morons and imbeciles deserve any thumping they receive and it doesn't even matter who gives it to them at this point. I definitely regret voting for Flanby in 2012.

Breizh Dieub.

Even if Front National reach the next round?

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French government is imploding right now.

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PS will probably be saved from the fate of PASOK by single-member constituencies and the lack of a credible, anti-establishment French version of Syriza.

(They are probably slightly safer than the PSOE is from Podemos, and much safer than Irish or Dutch Labour)

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I was thinking that the real 'anti-establishment' peril in France was Panzergirl and not the innocuous FdG. The French electoral system might produce a supermajority for the UMP, instead of 'saving' the PS from a terrible fate. As for PSOE, ask me after the 2015 elections, especially if a 'Grand Coalition' materializes from the air.

I think, as anti-establishment and "hip", the Front are at present; they're not going to steal PS's core vote like Syriza did to PASOK, and I don't think any existing French party really can.

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I'm mainly waiting for the inevitable Podemos/Syriza style consumption of both PS and FdG. Something's got to give at this point, right?

BTW did France even get PR in the end? I know EELV demanded it in more optimistic times, but does this mean we'll see a large Fascist presence in the next chamber?

Also the Le Pen duo are having another public spat. Supposedly, Panzergirl wants to change the name of the party for PR, and her father whined about it in an interview. Why are these losers so popular?

How the f**k is Le Pen winning? Has France gone insane or something?

The main reason is that the last two presidents have been failures. But remember that there are two rounds in the presidential election, I still think that any UMP candidate other than Sarkozy would easily win the second round. On the other hand, Sarkozy - Le Pen in the second round would have bad consequences...

Who would win in a Le Pen vs. non-Hollande Socialist match-up?

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No commentary, just thought it was funny.

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Can he try and ungerrymander (and then regerrymader in his favour) the map?

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Seriously, if the legislative elections were held now, how many seats would the left save?

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Help for us monolinguals?

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And when you say "right" you mean FN, right? This isn't the Republicans ... Is it? :0

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Guys don't fight that's just what Le Pen wants

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Aren't there vegetarian options in France?

Also veal?

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Tbf, those menus are seriously skimpy in regards to decent puddings.

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Flanby has been named one of the best dressed men in 2015 by FT

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/72fea7de-9f45-11e5-beba-5e33e2b79e46.html

so, err, congrats

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POISON DWARF UNDER FORMAL INVESTIGATION

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How would Quebec vote if it's current party system was replaced with the French one? I think this might be a more interesting version of the old 'Canada would vote 80% Democrat' exercise.

Would Quebec be disproportionatley LR, FN, or PS?  How would smaller groups like MoDem, Greens and FG do?

Is this a hypothetical Quebec with the Anglos partitioned away?

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Sarko's officially in.

Jail?

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So I assume he'll be president soon?