France General Discussion II: Living under Marxism

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Within six months Hollande precisely engaged the country in the reform of the tax system and began to bother about the reform of institution, and all of this by finding the most balanced possible ways without betraying themselves, and during an epoch of crisis, and without acting like a slave with Germany even succeeding to partially reorientate some Merkel positions (Banking union).

Frankly, in a pragmatic and realistic perspective, they might be doing the best that can be done.

I can't believe I'm defending Socialistes...

Really, while in the beginning on the mandate I wasn't that hopeful about them given their behavior in the opposition during all those years, I'm not unpleased at all to see what they manage to do so far.

I love how Hollande also keeps managing being the guy that everybody underestimates but succeeds to achieve stuffs, the big press conference he just held wasn't bad at all. So far I'd think he'd typically be in the situation of the guy everybody laugh and loath because people don't see immediate results or would like to have someone with a more impressive attitude, but, unless big bad event, all what he is doing would begin to pay in about 2 years, and lol, Ayrault, which would be replaced after Municipales/Européennes would have only known the bad weather (well, after all he is Breton, he should be used to it...), people who make the discrete tough efforts are rarely paid...

I also loved to see the reaction of all those over annoying barons, of the left and right, after Jospin's proposal to forbid the cumulation of mandates, and all of his other proposals for the renewal of institutions were not unpleasant either.

Vas-y Lionel! Shoote les Barons!

Vas-y Francky c'est bon!

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Francois Hollande lurches Right in historic U-Turn to save French economy

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At the risk of sounding like leftie-drone, this is awful.

Hollande can't risk making Sarko's mistake and driving his voters into the arms of MLP.

Driving people in the hands of MLP because of this? lol, no. That's not at all the scheme into which MLP could earn voters, it's more likely bad for her, because this measure is seen like a rather balanced and constructive one by most of the classical political class (MEDEF approved of it!), and actually it's part of stuffs that participates to make social relationships more peaceful. It's actually a balanced one, and not something betraying the Socialistes ideas, those who don't like it had to support stuffs like 'Mélenchon'.

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Implementing Jospin's proposals on institutional reform is part of what I consider as non-negotiable in order for Hollande's tenure to deserve any other mention than "epic fail". I hope he doesn't shy away from this as all his predecessors did.

lol, continues to be quite balanced...

Those words can only be the words of someone who voted for Mélenchon.

Actually, Hollande hasn't been elected to implement a revolution. Any thing that could actually pass will be welcome, bitching around is quite easy, making politics is something else (all those people who chanted 'YES WE CAN!' might have figured it out since then...). And all what he does, from a classical political perspective, is so far quite good, no matter what one can think about the situation of our society and which actual change one can wishes, all what can go in the good direction is something good to be taken. By the way, it seems to me that the political level is not here to create change in a society, it's here to deal with an already existing reality, so, we deal with what our country is, we have the political class we 'deserve'...

Cumulation of mandates is also the institutional reform a lot of French are the most pushy about if you believe polls, so it would be the one which has the most chances to pass. And frankly, I agree, as a 1st minimum step of institutional reform, the only fact to no more have to deal with all those freaking annoying barons by forbidding the mandate accumulation would be......WOOHOO!!. I already love to see Rebsamen and Collomb annoyed faces and all those other ones who try to pitifully explain you how it is totally necessary to cumulate mandates...

As for the proportional part of the Assemblée, yeah, it's quite ridiculous, but once again, those who complain had to vote for Mélenchon.

Cumulation of mandates in France:







Sorry not to translate all, you gonna ask if you want precisions.

Owni did a quite good animation summing of the situation in France about that (as they often do for C Politique on France5 each Sunday):

http://datablog.owni.fr/2012/11/12/cdata-le-cumul-des-mandats/

And in this they brought the most astonishing stat to me, the comparison with other countries, 1st the fact that France is the 1st at cumulating mandates (not surprised), and overall, the fact that people with both a national and local mandate reaches 83% (I've been surprised to see Sweden as 2nd with 35%...).

They add that here an MP can have till 4 local mandates (mayor of a -3.500 habs city, MP, leading an 'intercommunality', and leading a département), less than 25% of our MPs have only one mandate, 42% of deputies are also mayors, 45/101 départements are also led by a MP.

They also speak about the fact that, thankfully, they can't cumulate money beyond the limit of 8.300€ (which already is a freaking limit! no matter how small it can look like compared to the insane ones of some companies/banks/other insane stuffs)...but...they can have the money that goes beyond this limit in order to hire some people, then they can create their little 'elective industries'...

Bloody France. The only fact to change that wouldn't be easy, so...

Vas-y Lionel! Shoote les Barons!



Vas-y Francky! C'est bon!

It would take a while before having deeper change in the society, and might as well also be a matter of generation, and the preceding generation wouldn't be easy to move from its place, and the next ones are too much in a foggy situation right now, when you see how it can happen on a forum of people interested in politics, how do you want it goes better elsewhere...?

BTW, my University Sciences Po is in an epic sh*tstorm right now. Apparently their finances were all over the place.

Yeah, seems that his last boss wasn't that wonderful...

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Hmm, I spoke about actual change, the political level creates none of the change, it accepts a reality or tries to fight it. The society changes by itself, the political level can't go beyond what a society actually is. The 'change' they brought through their programs is some change a society already wishes, they create nothing. Each time it tried, they had some problems, millions of people paid the price of this fantasy notably in the 20th century (gosh what a sake we have left that epoch...).

In short the only change they can bring effectively is an administrative one, which isn't necessarily something slight, and it's necessary, it's called Right, and can be tough to gain, Syrians would be able to witness that nowadays to take an obvious example, or women who fought for having abortions, or black people for civil rights and so on, but once again, the political creates none of the actually occurring change of a society.

Civilization doesn't wait Politics to change (thankfully!), or one more time, each time some tried, ils ont eu des problèmes... (it's better to put a Régis and Laspalès video, than one recapitulating all the colonial empires, the USSR, all the 'Communist' and Fascist regimes and so many of those fancy stuffs brought by the 20th century, isn't it?). It accepts it or not. It deals with a reality of a society actually is and wishes. And in French nowadays society what are the deep changes that are wished...?

Hollande fits pretty much what the French society is, add to this his personal quality, and really he doesn't deserve some fuss against him, neither does most of what the Socialiste administration did.

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LOL: 4 PS deputies propose abolishing the PM post.

I'd rather abolish the Presidency, tbh.

I'd rather abolish the whole thing personally, if not the country as a whole, but they don't need my help they are doing all of this very well, by themselves, and, unlike what I thought they are doing it incredibly faster than what I expected.

Sometimes I feel like I live in a totally different country than the one in which I lived still a couple of years ago...

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Just watched Manuel Valls speech in La Rochelle.

Wow, was something.

Il leur a mis deux claques aux frondeurs, ils ont pas dû comprendre.

Was even maybe more impressive than Sarkozy speeches in 2007 (which is something).

That even could become the founding speech of a new era, at lest for the French Left.

Today France definitely met its Blair/Schröder/Zappatero and directly switches from an unconfessed 'social-democratie' to 'social-liberalism'.

And given the pace of things nowadays and the fact that country would be ready to jump in it for years now but was blocked by all its political and intellectual traditions, plus the kinda explosive energy of Valls, it could very quickly fully embrace it.

The title of this thread becomes more irrelevant than ever.

If during a while (the 2 first years in short), the right could effectively enjoys all kinds of carricature and sarcasm which made this title pretty much relevant (even if indeed all of this was quite unfair), now that gonna be tough for them to fight on ideas.

Since the switch between Ayrault/Valls in April, it was already harder for them to bring ideas to debate (and 'lol' given the total shanty state in which they are at all levels didn't help them either...), but that switch was 'only' a change imposed by some elections, to try to give an answer to 'something', but you couldn't really see any significant differences so far, and Montebourg who had became Economy Minister in between was the perfect embodiement of this. But what happened this week is totally different, 'they' took the decision of a change and one more time the fact that it happens through Montebourg, and through a decision of Valls to make his govt resign makes perfect sense and shows very well all what's going on.

First it's a clear, and certainly definitive, change of political line.

Second, it's almost a coup, the decider definitely is Valls in all what's going on. It's just crazy how Hollande looked like a total ghost in all what happened during this week.

Then, in about one week we have both an economical and almost institutional change in this country, and all of this thanks to a little nervous Catalan! (put*** d'immigrés!)

Speaking about this I must confess that I kinda like how he manages to well enough underlines and emphasize the positive face of multiculturalism, which he moreover naturally embodies (ven if he doesn't belong the immigration waves that met the biggest integration problems), he manages to do it with energy and without naïveté or empty consensualism, which pretty much flatters the 'French lyrical universalism', the fact that he is rather good at oratory art (yeah, I keep this formulation, you know...), which is something that French traditionally enjoy helps him too. Such breath of fresh air is never bad to take in a country where it's precisely harder and harder to...breath.

And that's an other interesting aspect of all of this, the challenge with Marine Le Pen.

So far it was her the 'fresh' air of French politics, it was the only ones that was making move political lines, and was almost managing to become the center of all political debates.

The fact that the right became totaly shanty at all levels and that the Left was lost in all her good old petty debates, plus the personality of Hollande which so far was till the who looked like the 'decider', which is a rather consensual and kinda 'politically traditional' personality was such a wonderland for her, she could walk the path as if she was walking on the moon.

But now, with Valls clearly in the foreground, that's a big new element for her, especially if he succedes in effectively showing the brilliant part of multiculturalism.

We are here with both strong personalities, and 2 strongly enough different vision of the world, with 2 strong physical energies, who both very well know how works the modern world and how to use it.

That wouldn't be surprising at all that both of them become the 2 main political figureheads of the very years to come.

Even for Sarkozy I'd think it would be quite clear to manage a good come back now, Valls beats him on all levels where he could appear as better than others in the past. He would look like an old bitter clone. The most he would have to bring would be his international and Europe experience, but those 2 things are those about which people would be the most careless in elections, so whatever. Personally I always thought, even before his 1st election as Président, that after having taken France, the guy would try to take Europe (which would make him definitely Napoleonian...), the European scale might be his last chance to come back into the lights, but, oho, last elections were a few months ago, and, oho, the President of the Council has been elected yesterday, he'd have to be patient if he wants to do something here maybe then, and Sarkozy is all but patient. We'll see then...

So, what's left? The Left!

But yeah, what's Left?!

(oh gosh, that one is good isn't it? the Francophone I am finds it good anyways )

So yeah, the Left is upside down now.

Greens haven't a bloody f**king clue where is their mind regardless the fact that their biggest figurehead, Duflot, who was in the govt till April, entered into frontal confrontation with Valls.

Commies (PCF) have hard time opening eyes and realizing that one century has passed.

Problems for those both is that they are institutionally dependent on PS, which doesn't help to know where is their mind...

'Trotskystes' (NPA and the like), well they are out of any move of politcal lines anywhere, trying to stay into the classical political games but refusing it all along, which indeed makes that they go nowhere, they keep dreaming about some eventual new 1936 giant strikes, or a new Mai 68, the only thing that they manage is to make cohabitate 19th century schemes of thought with 21st rethoric, they never managed to live their little corners in which they shut themselves so whatever.

All those forces are pretty much neutralized then, both by their internal contradictions and by our over pyramidal shut institutions. Institutionally, they can do nothing against the new govt, and all look more and more ridiculous in the eyes of people.

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(if they fought that limiting it to 11.000 characters would prevent me to make some over long bloody posts...)

So, again, what's left??

PS!

So yeah, you might have already debated it on this forum, for a while now it's within PS that most of the significant opposition to this govt is taking place with an unclear group which has a few lowlevel young figurehads labelled 'frondeurs'.

It slowly began under Ayrault, took a new turn with Valls nomination in April, and for one week they are just upside down.

They'd be a group of about 100 PS deputies that'd oppose current govt orientations, of which a core of about 30-40 deputies already voted against the govt on important matters.

So far, they'd be on a rather growing dynamic, but last week has really been messy and it's not clear yet what gonna come out of all of this.

So far too, they don't have any major political figurehead either. Montebourg is a total maverick, a big one, a loud one, but only a maverick.

But they have their Imam caché...

Aubry!

It's her who made the investitures for 2012 législatives, thanks to which a lot of those young and unexperimented deputies have been elected. And she has always been quite bitter about her loss of 2012 PS primaries against Hollande. Since Hollande election as president she stayed totally absent of the debates while it's one of the biggest figureheads on the Left, and oh, all of a sudden, yesterday she took a position against one of the new measures already announced by Valls, for her city of Lille which so far remains a strong enough stronghold for her. Several of her political relatives announced she could speak in the days to come.

A last totally wild card on the Left, Mélenchon.

So far he never managed to canalize the attention of people toward his orientations, I'd personally think it's because it remains too technical for most people while Marine Le Pen can throw any stupidity that everybody will, he remains rather talentuous though at oratory art and now what are the new trends to follow, but I'd also so far he's still been too much tied to the classical French far-left ever lost in all its contradictions and which doesn't move from a good old French far-left culture which really is annoying a lot of people in this country since it's really going nowhere while blocking the most can.

Then, here we are for the Left in a quite new but still rather unclear situation.

The very splitting Valls new positions and personality would help to quickly enough see clearer though.

Aside from the about 100 deputies who made a public call against new orientations of the govt a few months ago, you already had a new call of about 200 deputies who made a public call for the support of Valls very last orientations.

And then you have all those different streams of the left of the Left which still don't know what to do exactly, from PCF to Greenies, passing by PS frondeurs, or any people that can't necessarily be identified to a party or even to a movement (which would represent a growing number of people), with different kinds of figureheads, Duflot, Mélenchon, Aubry, who will have to find a new way to organize themselves and thus could eventually meet a big enough part of the population that doesn't want to surrender to insane directives of modern global economy.

The frondeurs already have found a kinda catchy formulation to gather people and give a kind of appealing label to their group:

Vive la Gauche!

So that's what they have been chanting during all the week-end as if they had organized a big party or won a big election...

But look, today, Manuel Valls did this big speech in La Rochelle, the journalist that was into the room said that in the beginning each time Valls was saying something that unpleased them, they were all shouting and booing, but step by step, the speech was so strong that it just made them precisely...speechless.

As I said in the beginning in French, they just took a double slap.

Personally, at then end of it, I was like...

En-cu-lé...

Maybe in several senses of the formulation . Future will say...

Well, personally, that's a long time I tend to think that this country might really need to give up with all its good old leftist reflexes that don't go anywhere (and sometimes you'd really wonder about the genuinity to improve things from those who lead it) and that this country might to need to fully plunge in that insane modern bath to really feel the insanity of it and then to really touch its limits to latter really think about switching to new better things. No wonder why most of the most interesting constructive alternative initiatives come from Anglo countries, that's those who majoritarily built the system in which we are and who also might have touched the most its limits...shame on us .

But beware, we're some f**king revolutionary messy guys. So we let problems being accumulated, everybody keeps its little priviledges in its little corners, we multiplicate little corporative fights that doesn't really go anywhere, with often quite strong very personified executive institutions, which can always been endangered when you have a week enough personality.

It grows...it grows...it grows...it GROWS...

...all of a sudden...

...out of nowhere...

...

...

...

(ça va péter...!)

BAM!

(ça a pété...)

Vive la Révolution! Vive la Révolution! Vive la Révolution!

...or something like that.

So who knows what will happen, seems this country could go anywhere, for the best and the worst, and that the impact of what's happening here could have a big enough impact on the future of Europe too (as always, we've been always been the political leader of the continent...)...

For the months to come anyways I think we could very well be witnessing the beginning of Valls momentum of which next regional elections, especially if they take place in Spring could very well be the top...

But whatever the past, whatever the future, for now, Ladies (?!?) and Gentlemen, let me introduce you the new leader of France (well, for national matters, international matters still definitely belong to Hollande), Manueeeeeeeeel...

...Vaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalls!
 
Ah and to make you better feel the guy, I can't resist to give you one of the best thing Duflot did when she was a minister by this comparison:

So damn relevant...

Not sure which one I'd find the less annoying personally, maybe Valls, I just couldn't bear that annoying little boy in Astérix in Hispanie...

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Just a little news:

After having revealed that Mathieu Gallet, very young new CEO of Radio France, French public radio group, had spent 100.000€ to redesign his office while Radio France has to face some savings, the Canard Enchaîné now reveals that he spent 125.000€ for the same thing when he was leading INA (National Institute of Archives), and 1 million € for 'advices'!

My f**king generation is on the rise...

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2€ is enough to make a lot of people step back.

Juppé remains the main popular rightist politician in the country, he managed to get an image of both serious and wise person, regardless he was PM during the huge 1995 strikes (maybe the biggest ones after 1936, and 1968, which is something).

To be honnest that might remain the most decent one of the political class, but still terribly classical, but don't ask me, I'm not waiting the slightest thing from the political level, the basic intellectual and moral decency would even prevent to still call it politics.

80% abstention is a little dream of mine.

As for Sarkozy, the more Juppé will stay high, the more you can expect the nervous guy to do all what's possible to screw it, no matter it would screw the whole situation.

2017, in case it waits till this, has all the ingredients to be something like terrible (and by 2017, I mean the couple présidentielles/législatives). Imagine Marine Le Pen making like 40% in a 2nd run (impossible?), and then eventually ending up with say less than 20-100 deputies, if a regime crisis doesn't happen with something like that, then it seems hard to escape it in the years/months that gonna follow.

This country always advance by crisis, crisis, and crisis, we need to set a f**king mess before trying to eventually fix something. Face it or flee it but it seems hard to escape it.

So far we used to have progressive revolts, hey are we facing our 1st majoritarily reactionary crisis? (1934 was big it's 1936 that won, and I don't count collaboration, it's been done under force, even if 'a few' hadn't to be forced a lot...).

Future will tell, and hey, you never know maybe if people figure out MLP's way is really totally empty and would only add some mess, maybe this country will manage to set a kind of new progressive alliance, people like Duflot and Mélenchon and all their good will are trying this.

Hey, worked in Grenoble.

Truly, right now, I have an hard time seeing this possible.

What's happening is beyond politics it's a whole societal move, and today social progress seems to be old fashioned and awkward, while reactionarism (well, that modern reactionarism which has much density as a marshmallow) seems to be so cool and totally legitimate...

'Hey this country has been too nice and too lax during too many years, enough now! It's time to be nasty and selfish! Woohoo! So cool!!'

Actually, I really don't know if I would go voting if MLP was in the 2nd run.

I don't fear social chaos, except a little elite of this country most people are already more or less into it, and her 'winning' (oh lol, f**king dear...) might be the crisis for this country to make up his mind on a lot of issues (Europe, its democratic system, its outdated unconnected institutations, and, hopefully, you never know, even with representative democracy itself. So, why not letting people shooting in their feet, and then you could always ask them:

Ca y est, tu l'as faîte ta connerie, t'es content, c'est bon, t'as vu que c'était n'importe quoi, on peut passer à autre chose maintenant?

The only thing that would truly annoy me in case of an MLP victory (oh lol, f**king f**king dear...), would be all what she could do against bi-nationals.

It's a big topic of hers. You can't be French and Algerian, you choose. Because there is a good proportion of Maghrebis/Algerians who still have the double nationality, and this would be something.

This and who knows, she could actually ask to send the army in rough districts (it's a big popular word in France...) when some riots last a bit.

Do this country needs all of this to purge all the stupidity and the good old reactionary ressents which are currently openly growing and growing and growing...

We'll see.

80% of abstention!!

Or at the very least 80% of blanks, which would say you're ok to keep a form of democracy, but not that totally doomed one.

That'd be a positive regime crisis.

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Paid vacation, reduced working time, social dialog, Blum would vote FN

From Sciences-Po FN, 'with love'

http://www.liberation.fr/direct/element/le-compte-twitter-du-fn-sciences-po-sapproprie-leon-blum_31168/

I discovered it in the same time than Philippot on itélé a few mins ago, he and I were like...bouche bée: ...during a few secs, and then he quite quite proudly said 'Yeah, yeah, that's it, that's right'...

Welcome in the XX1st century!

Hopefully this sinks any chance of a Sarko comeback and the UMP/LR can nominate a respectable candidate.

C'mon, we're in France, this man...

...is actually offering his brilliant personality to presidential primaries, everything is possible.

Question: why do left-wing French posters seem to hate PS so much?

Because gay marriage is pretty much the only thing in their program they accomplished?

Rest of term was liberal reforms to appease Merkel/employer association/EU/"increase competivity".

Their European policy is also pretty much always side with Merkel and berate Italy for trying to organise a left-wing alternative. Also, endorsing ND over SYRIZA and complaning about the "unstable" left-wing coalition in Portugal.

And now, they want to authorize a permanent state of emergency and lower civil liberties (allowing raids without warrants, among other things) because "Charlie Hebdo and Bataclan". Also, they used the anti-terrorist legislation (passed after November events) to do raids and arrest people in ecologist organisations opposing expropriations and construction of a big airport in Nantes. Also, they pretty much tried to ban all demonstrations, because "national security".

Really, I don't see why left-wingers would be annoyed.

Yeah, pretty good summation, to which you can add the new law on labour which has just been published and that managed to make even CFDT angry and ally CGT.

Lately I was actually wondering wether that administration wouldn't be the most rightist ever seen in the Vth, and I only speak from an economical point of view, when you add all the security and nationalistic stuffs we're enjoying for a couple of months, woohoo!

One could even wonder wether they wouldn't be the most rightist administration amongst the IIIrd and the IVth too...

And Valls shuting all possibility of debate on anything.

I tend to make the bet that he's making the [daring!] bet that the Left gonna lose the next Prés', then he should pass the hardest possible measures, so that the right benefits from people anger, and then he can well prepare his opposition leadership during 5 years and then come back as the 'Great French Schröeder that took all brave tough measures for the good of the country', betting it would give the same economical results than in Germany in the coming years.

Regardless it screws all possible constructive political and economical debate in the country (for what there is still left to be screwed...).

Politicians politicianizing.

He might actually be convinced that he's making the right choices 'for the country'.

This 'wanna be Clémenceau' has an hard time hiding his ego though (and then we're back to the 1910s again, heck...).

Welcome to the XXIst century...

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Cool piece on increased interest in Army reserve service. Wonder what the numbers are for the Marine and Armee de l'Air.

Yeeeah

I'm thirsty of adventure for those hungry of liberty
I'm the keeper of priceless values
Always united, never alone
I stay awoken in order you sleep quietly
I want to be the new breath after the storm
Always standing up, I go ahead to make the fear stepping back
Here
There
And further, I'll always go ahead in order Men never step back

The Armée de Terre recruits 15.000 soldiers
Your will, our job

And you missed all the rhymes.

Well, isn't it cool to have réservistes?

Lots of people, no money to give!

Well, when you wanna really be hired by the army, it's not that simple, I tried last year, more answering to a job offer, and for curiosity than for a sudden so called 'patriotism', but oho, 2 years too old, and no way to negocy anything, regardless what you apply for isn't physical at all.

For Marine and Air, I doubt they got réservistes, this needs too much qualifiactions.

The other very big recruitment spot being Gendarmerie, France doubled its new jobs in it since 2015, 13.500 people to recruit with 47% more candidates too.

Beginning of March, first post-attacks Gendarmerie examination, 3.700 jobs, 24.000 people

Ah and, a little cool thing that happened in France recently...

The région that is right at the top of the map, now officially has a name, you will have to call it 'Haut-de-france' (how would you translate that? 'High of France'? 'Higher France'? whatever).

Finally something fancy that comes out of this totally pointless and backward regional mess.



Other than that, less  fancy, apparently the right also drops De Gaulle legacy on Algérie...

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Hauts-de-France!

Ah, and, please, 'PQ', change this name...

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Oh and, still on new names, Juppé had made this actual propostion for Aquitaine-Poitou-Charentes-Limousin:

Aliénor Duchy

...

yaaaaaaaaaaaaay graddy!

Well, thankfully he admitted, that 'maybe it was a bit passeist'...

Most people would go for 'Great Aquitaine' for this.

Historically relevant enough, but, personally, from a far more Charentais than Bordelais point of view, I'd go with...

Quichenotte!l



Quichenotte...kichenotte...kiss not...

Lots of historical interractions with British outhere you know...

And when you see that any historical building in Charente is about throwing Brits away, while Bordelais always enjoyed them to sell (and well, to make...) their wine.

Charentais didn't need them to sell their salt...

But Bordeaux surrenderers would screw anything thanks those new pointless overbig regions.

'Décentralisation'

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It's 'flamby', there is always a 'm' before a 'b'.

Even Nestlé respected French spelling rules for this 'name'.

And since François Hollande is the less awkward person on Earth, they indeed tried to make that the most discretely possible, and, indeed, the more they tried to hide it, the more people who heard about that tried to say it loudly, and in the end everybody loudly heard about that, and it didn't look awkward...at all.

Strike those who behead people on TV, reward those who do that offline.

Originally you could buy medals, back to the point. People might appreciate the worth of their Légion d'Honneur now. Sold out. Sold?? Bah ouais, c'est les soldes, tout doit disparaître!

...oohoohoooo...

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I'm deeply sorry to announce you that Québec isn't part of France anymore, yeah, it's a shame but so went History.

Bloody Pompadour.

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How would Quebec vote if it's current party system was replaced with the French one? I think this might be a more interesting version of the old 'Canada would vote 80% Democrat' exercise.

Would Quebec be disproportionatley LR, FN, or PS?  How would smaller groups like MoDem, Greens and FG do?

Is this a hypothetical Quebec with the Anglos partitioned away?

Good question I hadn't thought about them. I assume they would be right and/or separatist relative to francophones.... let's say the Anglo are partitioned away.

Let's say we throw them to the Neptune ring called Equality.

http://www.euronews.com/2016/05/03/france-will-not-accept-ttip-without-rules-says-hollande/

Hollande trying to win back lefties he offended with his labour reforms?

Nah, Hollande trying to show how tooough he can be againt the bloody Anglos since we unfortunately doesn't have yet build a space program to throw them to Venus, and this in order to try to buy...hmm...what?...at lest 60% of the French population which for very different reasons would be against the insanity you mentionned above.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Police might need extended powers lately, yeah...



Sickeness sickening sickness...

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Why are there always riots right before a far right candidate is up for election in France?

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Elements of answer to this eventually more relevant question:

Or something like that.

Now if u're interested in speaking about the Chinese/Asian community in France that's an other matter.

Ah and i thought the nickname of that paper was 'Daily Fail'.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Why are there always riots right before a far right candidate is up for election in France?

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No, this was America in the run-up to the judgement of Donald Trump at the ballot box:

Charlotte Protest Turns Violent, Governor Declares State of Emergency and Deploys National Guard

“Things got out of hand:” Violence breaks out in Milwaukee following officer-involved shooting

2 Police Officers Shot, Killed in Ambush Attacks in Iowa

All swing states. All states that went to Trump. Since the election? Crickets. Now that Le Pen is running in France, nonstop riots. After the election mark my words, thing will quiet down. At this rate, all of Paris will be burned down by the election.

And my point specifically was to tell that France, really, isn't the right example to illustrate that theory, both by its riots habbits, and by the fact that, so far at least, it seems to be impossible for that big mouth blondie to reach any sit of power in this country.

And taking those specific 'riots' to try to show 'Paris on fire' still more show...little knowledge...of what...true riots...are in France.

Thanks for trying.