PA State Rep. Mike Turzai = ADMITTED DOUCHEBAG!
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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2012, 09:49:05 AM »

First, I think the Pennsylvania law is overly restrictive.

Second, in the last two months, I've:

1.  Been called by (Democratic) DA's Office to verify that I signed the Republican Committee member's nominating petition.  (I did.)

2.  Robocalled by my (Democratic) state rep to see if I had ID to vote.

3.  Been called by some Republicans to see if they could use me as a poll watcher to check ID's.  (I cannot sit 13 hours, so I declined.)

4.  Had an actually nonpartisan flyer on my door telling me that I'd need ID to vote.

The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.
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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2012, 10:12:13 AM »


The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.

It is actually easier to get welfare benefits in PA that it is to vote, at least in terms of ID and residency.

There is a need for verification of voter's ID, but this law is too draconian.
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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2012, 10:23:42 AM »


The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.

It is actually easier to get welfare benefits in PA that it is to vote, at least in terms of ID and residency.

There is a need for verification of voter's ID, but this law is too draconian.

It would seem more natural to make a uniform standard for ID whether for voting or state benefits.
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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2012, 10:39:42 AM »


How can you tell? You don't even live here.
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2012, 11:29:24 AM »


The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.

It is actually easier to get welfare benefits in PA that it is to vote, at least in terms of ID and residency.

There is a need for verification of voter's ID, but this law is too draconian.

It would seem more natural to make a uniform standard for ID whether for voting or state benefits.

Easily so. 

Consider this.  I've voted in the same polling station for 13 years.  People there know me, and I them.  There is a record of my signature there.  I will have to show ID this time. 

If I lose my driver's license, I cannot vote, in spite of the fact that I have two signed credit cards, a signed lease and numerous utility bills in my name, a signed bank card, a signed voter registration card, a signed library card, and signed verification of my IQ range.
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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2012, 12:06:33 PM »


The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.

It is actually easier to get welfare benefits in PA that it is to vote, at least in terms of ID and residency.

There is a need for verification of voter's ID, but this law is too draconian.

It would seem more natural to make a uniform standard for ID whether for voting or state benefits.

Easily so. 

Consider this.  I've voted in the same polling station for 13 years.  People there know me, and I them.  There is a record of my signature there.  I will have to show ID this time. 

If I lose my driver's license, I cannot vote, in spite of the fact that I have two signed credit cards, a signed lease and numerous utility bills in my name, a signed bank card, a signed voter registration card, a signed library card, and signed verification of my IQ range.


The law permits you to use a passport, and/or vote on a provisional ballot.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2012, 01:07:44 PM »

We need voter ID, when I went to vote all I had to do was say my address. You could find that on the White Pages. I'm not for disenfranchising anyone, but fraud is way too easy. Universal registration is also a good idea.

Of course, this assumes everyone voting is a good thing. For the sake of this exercise, let's assume this is true.
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2012, 01:19:57 PM »


The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.

It is actually easier to get welfare benefits in PA that it is to vote, at least in terms of ID and residency.

There is a need for verification of voter's ID, but this law is too draconian.

It would seem more natural to make a uniform standard for ID whether for voting or state benefits.

Easily so. 

Consider this.  I've voted in the same polling station for 13 years.  People there know me, and I them.  There is a record of my signature there.  I will have to show ID this time. 

If I lose my driver's license, I cannot vote, in spite of the fact that I have two signed credit cards, a signed lease and numerous utility bills in my name, a signed bank card, a signed voter registration card, a signed library card, and signed verification of my IQ range.


The law permits you to use a passport, and/or vote on a provisional ballot.

Yes, but unlike applying for state benefits, PA voter ID does not let you use two statements such as utility bills with your name and address along with a signature.
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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2012, 02:36:15 PM »


The PA voter ID law is certainly more restrictive than Canada's. PA appears to only have one of the three prongs Canada uses to verify, and that is a government-issued photo id. Canada allows for two non-photo options as well.

It is actually easier to get welfare benefits in PA that it is to vote, at least in terms of ID and residency.

There is a need for verification of voter's ID, but this law is too draconian.

It would seem more natural to make a uniform standard for ID whether for voting or state benefits.

Easily so. 

Consider this.  I've voted in the same polling station for 13 years.  People there know me, and I them.  There is a record of my signature there.  I will have to show ID this time. 

If I lose my driver's license, I cannot vote, in spite of the fact that I have two signed credit cards, a signed lease and numerous utility bills in my name, a signed bank card, a signed voter registration card, a signed library card, and signed verification of my IQ range.


The law permits you to use a passport, and/or vote on a provisional ballot.

I don't have a passport.  Smiley

What is needed for a provisional ballot?
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