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Question: Opinion of Ian Smith
Great Man   -2 (6.5%)
A Good Man   -5 (16.1%)
A Good but Misguided Man   -2 (6.5%)
A Bad Man   -6 (19.4%)
An Evil Man   -16 (51.6%)
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« on: July 03, 2012, 05:09:09 am »
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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2012, 06:23:09 am »
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Next is, what ? Opinion of Hitler ?
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2012, 06:27:02 am »
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Your comparing Ian Smith, a man who was nearly killed whilst flying a spitfire in World War II, and who fought with French and Italian partisans against the Germans, to Adolf Hitler, an insane, degenerate anti-semite. I have no words to express my opinion on this.
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2012, 06:38:41 am »
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Your comparing Ian Smith, a man who was nearly killed whilst flying a spitfire in World War II, and who fought with French and Italian partisans against the Germans, to Adolf Hitler, an insane, degenerate anti-semite. I have no words to express my opinion on this.

Yes, of course, because being a veteran absolves you from all future deeds Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2012, 06:48:08 am »
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Your comparing Ian Smith, a man who was nearly killed whilst flying a spitfire in World War II, and who fought with French and Italian partisans against the Germans, to Adolf Hitler, an insane, degenerate anti-semite. I have no words to express my opinion on this.

Yes, of course, because being a veteran absolves you from all future deeds Roll Eyes

I still don't get how he is evil.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2012, 09:33:37 am »
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Racist fascists are generally horrible people.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2012, 09:41:16 am »
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You know what I do with defenders of Racism...

They go on my ignore list

(Yeah, a bit lame and all but it is, unfortunately, the internet. It's a bit pointless to shout "f-ck off" to a screen).
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2012, 09:49:49 am »
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2012, 09:51:24 am »
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Racist fascists are generally horrible people.
though I have to say, he was the obvious person to rule RHODESia.
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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2012, 09:52:13 am »
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This genuinely surprises me. I am yet to be convinced he was a fascist.
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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2012, 10:45:17 am »
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Your comparing Ian Smith, a man who was nearly killed whilst flying a spitfire in World War II, and who fought with French and Italian partisans against the Germans, to Adolf Hitler, an insane, degenerate anti-semite. I have no words to express my opinion on this.
I feel obliged to mention that Hitler was a World War One veteran.
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« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2012, 11:18:15 am »
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I think he was seriously misguided, but did not have the intentions that Hitler, or any other genocidal loon, for that matter, held. He not that was great compared to Mugabe, but I would still prefer him.
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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2012, 11:19:14 am »
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Your comparing Ian Smith, a man who was nearly killed whilst flying a spitfire in World War II, and who fought with French and Italian partisans against the Germans, to Adolf Hitler, an insane, degenerate anti-semite. I have no words to express my opinion on this.
I feel obliged to mention that Hitler was a World War One veteran.

My point is that Ian Smith wasn't a fascist. He didn't have to join the RAF to fight Nazism, but he did, and put himself at great personal risk.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2012, 04:06:36 pm »
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This genuinely surprises me. I am yet to be convinced he was a fascist.

I personally don't think he was a fascist, but he was an authoritarian racist scumbag to say the least.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2012, 08:14:32 pm »
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I think he was seriously misguided, but did not have the intentions that Hitler, or any other genocidal loon, for that matter, held.

Pretty much this. I'll vote Bad Man, but not Evil Man.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2012, 11:46:20 pm »
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Somewhere between Bad and Evil, but I'll exercise compassion and say Bad for now.
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« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2012, 10:09:51 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.
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« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2012, 10:44:26 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.
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« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2012, 10:52:16 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.

At least Mugabe is justified in his racism. White people (me included) have a lot to answer for due to their rape of native peoples.
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« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2012, 11:06:45 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.

At least Mugabe is justified in his racism. White people (me included) have a lot to answer for due to their rape of native peoples.

Are you saying racism is justified? Under any circumstances, it isn't.
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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2012, 11:08:26 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.

At least Mugabe is justified in his racism. White people (me included) have a lot to answer for due to their rape of native peoples.

Are you saying racism is justified? Under any circumstances, it isn't.

Of course it is! As a self respecting leftist, he knows that racism expressed by ethnic minorities is good, as he thinks white people deserve it.
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« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2012, 11:12:05 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.

At least Mugabe is justified in his racism. White people (me included) have a lot to answer for due to their rape of native peoples.

Are you saying racism is justified? Under any circumstances, it isn't.

Of course it is! As a self respecting leftist, he knows that racism expressed by ethnic minorities is good, as he thinks white people deserve it.

But he is white... I've never really understood AA either, so I guess it goes in line with that.
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« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2012, 11:16:48 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.

At least Mugabe is justified in his racism. White people (me included) have a lot to answer for due to their rape of native peoples.

Are you saying racism is justified? Under any circumstances, it isn't.

Of course it is! As a self respecting leftist, he knows that racism expressed by ethnic minorities is good, as he thinks white people deserve it.

But he is white... I've never really understood AA either, so I guess it goes in line with that.

Then he's obviously insane.
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« Reply #23 on: July 04, 2012, 11:23:58 am »
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Ian Smith was just a racist baby killer, who hated freedom fighters like Mugabe, who wanted to get rid of another regime which was just a Reagan white American stooge.

Of course, Mugabe wasn't (and isn't) that much of a nice himself. He's a dictator and a racist who can't even run his own country very well. Both Ian Smith and Robert Mugabe are/were terrible people.

At least Mugabe is justified in his racism. White people (me included) have a lot to answer for due to their rape of native peoples.

Are you saying racism is justified? Under any circumstances, it isn't.

Of course it is! As a self respecting leftist, he knows that racism expressed by ethnic minorities is good, as he thinks white people deserve it.

But he is white... I've never really understood AA either, so I guess it goes in line with that.

Then he's obviously insane.

Seems logical.
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« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2012, 11:29:33 am »
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Less Bad than Mugabe, but still Bad. Not truly, manically evil , however.
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