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« on: July 05, 2012, 12:27:47 AM »
« edited: August 01, 2012, 11:57:50 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 12:32:32 AM »

24 hours to advocate for this Clarence.
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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2012, 06:09:13 AM »
« Edited: July 07, 2012, 09:30:37 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

Wait, is this bill getting tabled if Clarence is away for the next week?


Only if the Senate votes to table it. It is a policy meant to discourage absenteism amongst sponsors. I made an exception once already for Clarence, as much as I like him though this time I feel obligated to move forward with motioning to table this bill. If we keep making exceptions the whole point of doing it will become meaningless.

Chances are I will vote against tabling it myself when it comes time to vote on it. I typically vote no on them in general.

I motion to table this bill.


Edit: I change my mind. Clarence did post he would be gone and I did give a blanket exception for LOA's with no stated limit on the number of times. But some kind of action has to be done to discourage absenteeism amongst sponsors. Think of the impact on amendment consideration if a sponsor of a bill on the floor is gone for such a long period of time. Every amendment offered here will have to go to a vote because their is now way to use the alternative process without the primary sponsor. Perhaps we could allow the PPT to push back legislation if a Senator knows in advance he will be gone for a long period. There is only limited discretion regarding some of the lower slots, but the top few (1-5) specifically require that the next piece of legislation be brought up as it comes open. Using the other slots, this can be manipulated, which is ironically how I brought this to the floor. I didn't realize Clarence was gone and for such a long time till afterwards. Tongue
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 07:19:47 AM »

This can be brought to a final vote as soon as someone calls for it.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2012, 07:36:58 AM »

Senators, this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 07:47:34 AM »

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Indeed it can be, but I would like to know for sure whether something will come up if at is will take several days to engage in this process, amend the bill, and then restart the vote.

Is an amendment to be forthcoming? I would suggest the sponsor communicate with the Senator who has raised some issues here. 
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 08:00:11 AM »

The vote has several days left and I will refrain from closing it until it expires or a desire to amend this bill has surfaced, at which point I will halt the vote.



Aye for now.
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« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2012, 08:37:40 AM »

Changing mine to abstain for procedural matters.


Like Reid's Nay vote on the Disclose Act. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 07:16:37 AM »

Two days until I close the vote.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2012, 08:59:44 AM »
« Edited: July 21, 2012, 09:03:29 AM by Senator North Carolina Yankee »

Vote on Final Passage of The Less than HONORable Service Peclusion of Benefits Act:

Aye (5): AndrewPA, Ben, Clarence, Scott, TJ in Cleve
Nay (3): Redalgo, sbane, Seatown
Abstain (1): NC Yankee

Didn't Vote (1): Wormyguy
Attempted to Vote Twice (1): Seatown

With five votes in the affirmative, three in the negative and time having expired, the bill is passed and presented to the President for executive action.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 01:53:59 PM »

I thought we were as well, but I have been here long enough to know that you never go into an extra-ordinary procedure unless you know it is worth while. Hence why I conditioned my halting of the vote on the presence of a real desire to change the text. No amendments materialized so it didn't happen.


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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2012, 02:04:19 PM »

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So I guess Clarence's acceptance of the changes as "friendly" constitutes the equivalent of "filling a motion to approve the redraft".
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 02:06:57 PM »

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Senators, a vote is now open on the President's Redraft, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2012, 08:03:09 AM »

Aye
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« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2012, 09:41:19 AM »

This has enough votes to pass, Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 10:29:37 AM »

Vote on the President's Redraft:

Aye (6): AndrewPA, Ben, Clarence, NC Yankee, Scott and TJ in Cleve
Nay (1): Redalgo
Abstain (2): sbane and Seatown

Didn't Vote (1): Wormyguy

With six ayes, the President's Redraft has been passed and sent back to the President for executive action.
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