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« on: July 05, 2012, 09:03:46 am »
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Yeah, this probably should have been done yesterday, but oh well. You can find the map of the laws for every state here: http://www.fireworksafety.com/laws.htm

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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2012, 09:21:17 am »
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2012, 09:26:36 am »
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Horrible Laws.

Though 'Safe and Sane' regulations are probably okay. The fact that several Northeastern states actually ban fireworks is shocking.
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2012, 09:41:26 am »
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2012, 10:03:55 am »
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Undecided, mostly because in many states there's a real risk of starting a wildfire when setting off fireworks during the summer.

Also, my family puts on an (illegal) fireworks display every Independence Day. One of my uncles drives to PA and purchases a few thousand dollars worth of fireworks, and they're assembled together on a single fuse. We've had a few incidents... It's a bit surprising that there has never been a major injury.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2012, 10:22:03 am »
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Awful laws.
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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2012, 11:02:27 am »
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Horrible Laws. Minnesota's are pretty restricted but around here at least basically ignored, people shooting off fireworks for the past month and no doubt the next few days was a very common sound/sight. Hence my annoyance with Dayton for vetoing the bill to loosen them, there's no point in just having a pointless and not very enforceable law.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2012, 11:04:03 am »
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In Ohio you're allowed to buy them but not use them, which is about the stupidest law ever.
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2012, 11:29:38 am »
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Anyone ever had fireworks thrown at them?
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2012, 11:31:14 am »
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Quote from: SupersonicVenue on July 05, 2012, 09:26:36 am
Horrible Laws.

Though 'Safe and Sane' regulations are probably okay. The fact that several Northeastern states actually ban fireworks is shocking.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2012, 12:26:02 pm »
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Quote from: Ebowed on July 05, 2012, 11:29:38 am
Anyone ever had fireworks thrown at them?
Most of us were (or are) teenage boys at one time so...huh...obviously Wink  You haven't lived until you've had a good fireworks war with bottle rockets and roman candles.  Bottle rockets hurt more, but roman candle fire balls are far scarier.

As for the OP, HL of course.  Thankfully I've always lived in or near a state with liberal firework laws.
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2012, 12:26:15 pm »
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Freedom laws. F-ck fireworks.
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2012, 12:59:52 pm »
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Hilarious, given U.S gun laws. Objectively hilarious, maybe.
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Quote from: Comrade Sibboleth on July 05, 2012, 12:59:52 pm
Hilarious, given U.S gun laws. Objectively hilarious, maybe.

That's right.  So many things of that nature in the US, of course.
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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2012, 01:24:42 pm »
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Unless you are out in the middle of nowhere, restrictions make sense.   I'm not interested in having some idiot setting off airborne fire hazards near my house.
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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2012, 01:42:51 pm »
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Quote from: shua, gm on July 05, 2012, 01:24:42 pm
Unless you are out in the middle of nowhere, restrictions make sense.   I'm not interested in having some idiot setting off airborne fire hazards near my house.

Just out of interest, how much gun control do you support?
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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2012, 01:54:36 pm »
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Quote from: Franzl on July 05, 2012, 01:42:51 pm
Quote from: shua, gm on July 05, 2012, 01:24:42 pm
Unless you are out in the middle of nowhere, restrictions make sense.   I'm not interested in having some idiot setting off airborne fire hazards near my house.

Just out of interest, how much gun control do you support?
I don't support weapons with explosive projectiles being unrestricted if that's what you mean.
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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2012, 02:36:00 pm »
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WTF is wrong with this forum. The government shouldn't be allowed to restrict fireworks? Really?! Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2012, 02:42:56 pm »
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Quote from: shua, gm on July 05, 2012, 01:54:36 pm
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Quote from: shua, gm on July 05, 2012, 01:24:42 pm
Unless you are out in the middle of nowhere, restrictions make sense.   I'm not interested in having some idiot setting off airborne fire hazards near my house.

Just out of interest, how much gun control do you support?
I don't support weapons with explosive projectiles being unrestricted if that's what you mean.

     "Weapons with explosive projectiles" is a rather interesting way of characterizing fireworks.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2012, 02:52:50 pm »
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Horrible laws, and you'll be happy to know that large swathes of Massachusetts essentially ignore them as a Boston-area imposition on our FREEDOM.jpg, particularly Cape Cod and places like Franklin/northern Worcester Counties.
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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2012, 03:54:48 pm »
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Unpatriotic laws. Thankfully, fireworks are perfectly legal around here, so long as you're using them for 'agricultural' (Wink) or 'quarrying' (Wink) purposes.
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« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2012, 04:35:02 pm »
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Quote from: shua, gm on July 05, 2012, 01:24:42 pm
Unless you are out in the middle of nowhere, restrictions make sense.   I'm not interested in having some idiot setting off airborne fire hazards near my house.

I had an idiot neighbor doing exactly that last night.
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« Reply #22 on: July 05, 2012, 04:36:36 pm »
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But if you are in the middle of nowhere, they are HLs, and all of the states that ban fireworks outright do in fact have remote areas in them, even New Jersey (okay, Rhode Island is iffy, but it's not entirely Providence). Fireworks should be restricted locally or covered by other laws about hazards and nuisance.
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« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2012, 04:40:37 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2012, 07:54:09 pm »
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HLs - just make the users liable for damages so there's an incentive against using them foolishly.
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