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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2012, 12:14:23 pm »
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Why would people fret over this ppp poll when the far superior pollster Marquette already released a poll recently?

"The far superior pollster Marquette" also showed this:

45% Baldwin, 36% Hovde

What exactly is the logic in accepting half of the poll from the far superior pollster Marquette, but not the other half?

Surely if Hovde can come back against a statewide champion like Thompson he can also easily do so against a Dane county extremist lesbian.

Miles, sir, you proved to be correct.

PPP has them basically tied. Get over it.

You forgot to apply the -5 Miles rule.
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« Reply #26 on: July 10, 2012, 12:25:29 pm »
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Why would people fret over this ppp poll when the far superior pollster Marquette already released a poll recently?

"The far superior pollster Marquette" also showed this:

45% Baldwin, 36% Hovde

What exactly is the logic in accepting half of the poll from the far superior pollster Marquette, but not the other half?

Surely if Hovde can come back against a statewide champion like Thompson he can also easily do so against a Dane county extremist lesbian.

Miles, sir, you proved to be correct.

PPP has them basically tied. Get over it.

You forgot to apply the -5 Miles rule.

We've been over that for a while now.

The Krazen rule applies to PPP and the Miles rule applies to Rasmussen. Wink

But, yes, how silly of me to overlook that.
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« Reply #27 on: July 10, 2012, 06:05:45 pm »
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PPP Twitter:
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General election looks close in Wisconsin- Baldwin trails Hovde 45-44, ties Thompson at 45

Horror of horrors! The GOP just might nominate the fellow whom runs a half of point stronger than his main rival! Send out the calvary to head off this pending catastrophe!
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« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 08:59:39 pm »
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PPP poll due out tonight is apparently going to be terrible news for Thompson.  Sad
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« Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 09:04:13 pm »
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PPP poll due out tonight is apparently going to be terrible news for Thompson.  Sad

Oh sh**t. I guess Neumann/Fitzgerald totally deflated? I certainly don't have any faith in Hovde to make this 51, which it would definitely be with Thompson.
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« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2012, 10:34:28 pm »
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28-25-25 Hovde/Neumann/Thompson

PPP poll due out tonight is apparently going to be terrible news for Thompson.  Sad

Oh sh**t. I guess Neumann/Fitzgerald totally deflated? I certainly don't have any faith in Hovde to make this 51, which it would definitely be with Thompson.

Rumors of Neumann's demise have been greatly exaggerated.
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« Reply #31 on: July 31, 2012, 10:41:15 pm »
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I don't know about anyone else, but I've been seeing a ton of Neumann ads online.
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« Reply #32 on: July 31, 2012, 10:43:41 pm »
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28-25-25 Hovde/Neumann/Thompson

PPP poll due out tonight is apparently going to be terrible news for Thompson.  Sad

Oh sh**t. I guess Neumann/Fitzgerald totally deflated? I certainly don't have any faith in Hovde to make this 51, which it would definitely be with Thompson.

Rumors of Neumann's demise have been greatly exaggerated.
looking like Neumann will pull it off, The negative advertising he and the CFG/other groups backing him have been running will probably do the trick.
Of course someone might dig up the ads walker ran against neumann in 2010 and play them nonstop.
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« Reply #33 on: July 31, 2012, 10:50:38 pm »
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I don't know about anyone else, but I've been seeing a ton of Neumann ads online.

Which is weird because he can self-finance. Usually people who invest heavily online lack name ID and/or $$$. Neither of which are the case with Neumann.


PPP: Whew. Still winnable for TT, but 22% undecided is kinda high given everyone's name ID.
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« Reply #34 on: July 31, 2012, 10:57:13 pm »
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Hopefully Hovde and Neumann don't split the vote.
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« Reply #35 on: July 31, 2012, 11:01:32 pm »
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The problem with using Walker is that he gets drawn into this mess, and he's publicly stated he'll be playing referee. And hopefully TT pulls through. Nothing should get in the way of 51.
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« Reply #36 on: July 31, 2012, 11:10:15 pm »
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The problem with using Walker is that he gets drawn into this mess, and he's publicly stated he'll be playing referee. And hopefully TT pulls through. Nothing should get in the way of 51.
Well im not saying use him directly just run basically the same ads attacking neumann as being a pelosi stooge [its still a hilarious argument but hey]
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2012, 12:11:33 am »
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Some tidbits from the full release:

-Thompson's favorables have gone way down, from +47 to +6.

-Only 29% think Thompson is conservative enough to 58% who don't.

-Tom Jensen sums it sup pretty well here:

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There's a pretty strong argument for why any of these three guys could emerge victorious. Hovde has the lead. Neumann has the momentum. And Thompson could still survive where David Dewhurst and Richard Lugar did not because of the split in the conservative ranks.
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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2012, 12:30:10 am »
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How on earth is he not conservative?
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2012, 12:33:24 am »
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If Thompson has dropped that many points and Neumann is gaining, it looks as if Thompson might end up in third place, albeit narrowly. It's hard to rebound in a short amount of time after losing so many points.
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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2012, 01:07:24 am »
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How on earth is he not conservative?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNh2vVrlLdw
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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2012, 01:26:24 am »
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Oh, so he's pretty much like every other Republican.
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« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2012, 08:14:55 am »
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I think Paul Ryan is going to have to swoop in this week...
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« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2012, 09:06:46 am »
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The GOP might lose the chance to pick up a senate seat because the more electable candidate lost
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« Reply #44 on: August 01, 2012, 11:03:11 am »
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The GOP might lose the chance to pick up a senate seat because the more electable candidate lost

Can you really say "the more electable candidate" when the opponent is Baldwin?

Plus, it's worth mentioning that Hovde is a moneybags and has a nationwide fundraising network to tap into if that runs low, which is more than enough to make up for a lack of recognition. Also, most of the (not crazy) polls have Hovde doing mildly better than Thompson.
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« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2012, 12:07:12 pm »
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The GOP might lose the chance to pick up a senate seat because the more electable candidate lost

Can you really say "the more electable candidate" when the opponent is Baldwin?

Plus, it's worth mentioning that Hovde is a moneybags and has a nationwide fundraising network to tap into if that runs low, which is more than enough to make up for a lack of recognition. Also, most of the (not crazy) polls have Hovde doing mildly better than Thompson.

Is Baldwin considered unelectable or something? Huh
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« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2012, 12:13:34 pm »
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The GOP might lose the chance to pick up a senate seat because the more electable candidate lost

Can you really say "the more electable candidate" when the opponent is Baldwin?

Plus, it's worth mentioning that Hovde is a moneybags and has a nationwide fundraising network to tap into if that runs low, which is more than enough to make up for a lack of recognition. Also, most of the (not crazy) polls have Hovde doing mildly better than Thompson.

Is Baldwin considered unelectable or something? Huh

She's a Dane County union hack socialist lesbian!
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« Reply #47 on: August 01, 2012, 12:25:04 pm »
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Do all the people that say Thompson is more electable really trust Baldwin of all people not to trot this out for the general election?
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« Reply #48 on: August 01, 2012, 12:52:53 pm »
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Do all the people that say Thompson is more electable really trust Baldwin of all people not to trot this out for the general election?

You could just feel Thompson's tiny brain trying to handle that question while minimizing what he thought might be the collateral damage.  Hey Tommy, you need to read up on the law. You seem about 30 years behind the curve. Firing folks for sexual preference is as illegal as hell, and has been for a long time.
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« Reply #49 on: August 01, 2012, 01:01:27 pm »
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Firing folks for sexual preference is as illegal as hell, and has been for a long time.

This is currently the case only in 21 states and DC. The Dems have been trying without success to pass a national bill to this effect.
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