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Ray Goldfield
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« on: July 11, 2012, 10:05:06 PM »

The Israeli government is horrible only for not doing the things recommended by this commission already. I just hope Bibi grows a spine and follows the recommendations of the commission.

And you people still wonder why the Palestinians hate you so much.

No, we really don't. It's pretty clear.

There's a 4,000 year trail of blood indicating that anti-semites are very rarely placated.
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Ray Goldfield
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2012, 01:14:43 PM »

There are few things that repulse me more than white people who decide to play "white knight" for the Palestinians while being venomously opposed to Israel and casting Jewish Israelis as "White Europeans" in order to make their point.
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Ray Goldfield
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2012, 08:01:20 PM »

A key thing about the Secular vs. Haredi conflict is that there's a big split within the Haredi community as well. The Zionist Haredi wing, led by Moshe Feiglin, is fiercely patriotic, serves in the military, and works within Likud and the other right wing parties to bring religion more into politics. The other Haredi, the more extreme religious ones, are often less interested in politics, don't serve in the military and prefer to devote themselves 100% to Torah study, and some actually oppose Israel's existence on religious grounds.

It's unlikely that the Haredi would be able to unite enough to pose a threat to continued Secular Zionist government.
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Ray Goldfield
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 03:57:04 PM »

There are few things that repulse me more than white people who decide to play "white knight" for the Palestinians while being venomously opposed to Israel and casting Jewish Israelis as "White Europeans" in order to make their point.

Why buddy?  It just shows we know our own history.

Because for a very long time, including the Holocaust, the persecution of Jews has centered around the fact that our oppressors do not consider us "white" in the sense of European descent.

So now, to try to frame Israelis as "white colonialists" to delegitimize the Zionist cause is pretty warped.

The Israeli/Palestinian conflict is an ongoing territorial conflict between two people of Middle Eastern descent who lived on the land at different times.
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