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« Reply #125 on: January 28, 2005, 11:25:14 pm »
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Now, he stated a fact. If the Supreme Court says you have the right to private sexual relations, you have the right to beastiality.
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« Reply #126 on: January 29, 2005, 12:09:16 am »
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Now, he stated a fact. If the Supreme Court says you have the right to private sexual relations, you have the right to beastiality.

No, that's an irrational and idiotic leap.  Seriously.  Probably the dumbest statement since Gerald Ford insisted that Poland wasn't dominated by the USSR.
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« Reply #127 on: January 29, 2005, 12:48:10 am »
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No, it is a fact. That is an example of private sexual relations.
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« Reply #128 on: January 29, 2005, 12:50:05 am »
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By the way, I think anti-sodomy laws are completely ridiculous. I'm just saying, he didn't actually compare homosexuality to beastiality, he was just making a legal point.
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« Reply #129 on: January 29, 2005, 01:07:04 am »
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By the way, I think anti-sodomy laws are completely ridiculous. I'm just saying, he didn't actually compare homosexuality to beastiality, he was just making a legal point.

Their were many ways he could have made the point without throwing beastiality in the mix.  By him throwing beastiality in the mix it shows he really does think that way.  Any rational person, or someone who doesn't think thay homosexuals are comparable would never even think of bringing up beastiality in context of a homosexual converstaion, even if it was just a legal point, no sane person does that
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« Reply #130 on: January 29, 2005, 02:12:53 am »
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Um, why? I do stuff like that all the time.

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« Reply #131 on: January 29, 2005, 02:24:12 am »
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By the way, I think anti-sodomy laws are completely ridiculous. I'm just saying, he didn't actually compare homosexuality to beastiality, he was just making a legal point.

Their were many ways he could have made the point without throwing beastiality in the mix.  By him throwing beastiality in the mix it shows he really does think that way.  Any rational person, or someone who doesn't think thay homosexuals are comparable would never even think of bringing up beastiality in context of a homosexual converstaion, even if it was just a legal point, no sane person does that

No sane person who isn't, well, a lawyer anyway.

If you know the law, you know the law, and you say what you know.  Santorum knew the law in this case, and what he said has merit.  There is certainly a counter case, but it is not as compelling in purely legal terms as Santorum's was.

Sodomy laws are unconscienable, but not unconstitutional.
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« Reply #132 on: January 29, 2005, 10:28:20 am »
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I can't believe I actually have to explain this to you guys.

In homosexual relations there are two consenting adults.  In bestiality there is an animal who cannot give consent.  It is, quite plainly, animal abuse.
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« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2005, 01:45:49 pm »
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By the way, Santorum and Toomey are not far right.

Name a single issue either one is moderate on. BTW, Toomey has a lifetime ACU rating of 97. What's that if it's not far right?
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« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2005, 03:04:22 pm »
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By the way, Santorum and Toomey are not far right.

Name a single issue either one is moderate on. BTW, Toomey has a lifetime ACU rating of 97. What's that if it's not far right?

I've told you in the past that if someone has conservative views, that doesn't make them far right. You want to label them far right, you find far right views. I know that's hard for you, BRTD but everytime you label someone far right, I'll ask you to point out their extremist views. Ready....go...
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« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2005, 05:09:38 pm »
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Um, why? I do stuff like that all the time.



Exactly my point
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« Reply #136 on: January 29, 2005, 05:37:39 pm »
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I can't believe I actually have to explain this to you guys.

In homosexual relations there are two consenting adults. In bestiality there is an animal who cannot give consent. It is, quite plainly, animal abuse.

An animal is property, and does not need to give consent.  It doesn't have rights like a person does.
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« Reply #137 on: January 29, 2005, 07:44:27 pm »
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I can't believe I actually have to explain this to you guys.

In homosexual relations there are two consenting adults. In bestiality there is an animal who cannot give consent. It is, quite plainly, animal abuse.

An animal is property, and does not need to give consent.  It doesn't have rights like a person does.

And yet there are laws on the books which say you cannot abuse your pets ... even though, as you say, they are property.  Sexually assaulting an animal is abuse.  This is pretty simple.
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