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« on: July 13, 2012, 12:12:06 pm »
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Based on the probe that was released earlier this week, I really believe he would be facing charges.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 12:53:44 pm »
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Scum of the Earth, he was, eh?
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 12:55:39 pm »
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I doubt it, but he would deserve them.
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 06:33:50 pm »
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I doubt it, but he would deserve them.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 07:27:16 pm »
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I doubt it, but he would deserve them.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 09:00:18 pm »
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no, and he wouldn't deserve them
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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2012, 02:00:23 am »
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2012, 03:54:03 am »
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Hopefully, but we'll never know.  And he certainly deserved them.  I believe it's against the law to let a serious felony go on (and on and on) without doing something (anything) to stop it/report it.
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2012, 08:42:28 pm »
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I believe it's against the law to let a serious felony go on (and on and on) without doing something (anything) to stop it/report it.

first of all, there's every chance it would be difficult to prove Paterno's knowledge was able to reach such a high standard as set forth above.  and second, is this actually true?  and further from there, even if it is, why should it be?  surely as a libertarian you are sensitive to civil liberties issues.  do you not see the danger in requiring people to share information with law enforcement against their own will just because a crime may have been committed?
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2012, 08:49:57 pm »
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Legally, there's a different standard with child abuse. You're not required to narc on your neighbor for selling weed. If you work with kids (teacher, nurse, etc) you are required to report suspected child abuse, even if you have no proof.

http://law.onecle.com/pennsylvania/domestic-relations/00.063.011.000.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2012, 09:01:05 pm »
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Indeed.  Reporting speeders? nope, silly.  Reporting your neighbor for hiring hookers? nope, silly.  Your co-worker is being abused by her husband?  you bet your ass you should report it.  Your kid's classmate is being sexually abused by his step dad?  you bet your ass you should report it.  Multiple reports from multiple people about child abuse, abuse by a person in a position of power over many hundreds of children? it's your freacking duty as a human being to report, to do an ounce less makes you almost as bad the piece of sh**t doing the abusing.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2012, 09:42:11 pm »
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so it all reduces down to the silly fetishization of childhood innocence.  Freud probably thought he did away with this garbage once and for all, but!  here we are.
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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2012, 09:44:15 pm »
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Yes, raping a child is such a silly fetish. Roll Eyes
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Yes, raping a child is such a silly fetish. Roll Eyes

that has nothing to do with what I was saying
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2012, 10:33:06 pm »
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Well, what are you saying then because it seems either a tangent or something that is abhorrent and in profoundly bad taste.

A just society should protect the weak and powerless from exploitation and abuse.  If a society fails in certain aspects of this, then it shouldn't mean you throw away the protections.
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« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2012, 10:45:48 pm »
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Well, what are you saying then because it seems either a tangent or something that is abhorrent and in profoundly bad taste.

I'm using 'fetishization' in the 'commodity fetishism' sense, not in the 'scatology fetishism' sense.

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A just society should protect the weak and powerless from exploitation and abuse.  If a society fails in certain aspects of this, then it shouldn't mean you throw away the protections.

I never stated the Sandusky sex acts should be considered consensual nor be legal.
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« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2012, 10:57:59 pm »
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Yeah, I was certain that you were using it in that sense but I am failing to see its relevance in the thread. 

You really should have a moral and legal responsibility to report witnessed abuse whether it be a child, woman or man.
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« Reply #17 on: July 14, 2012, 11:04:39 pm »
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I don't believe that, I believe the only time one should be compelled to speak to an agent of the law is through a warrant or subpoena. 
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2012, 11:27:16 pm »
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Omerta for you then. 

I tend to disagree but know where you are coming from. It is also not as cut and dry of an issue as it appears from my gut instinct given things like attorney-client, doctor-patient, confessional etc.
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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2012, 05:30:33 am »
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so it all reduces down

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