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« on: July 13, 2012, 08:08:22 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.
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« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2012, 08:11:37 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.

If it fires up the birther crazies and rallies them to Romney, well that's Obama's objective achieved. And he's not attacking capitalism, he's attacking those who abuse capitalism - big difference.
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« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2012, 08:15:30 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.

If it fires up the birther crazies and rallies them to Romney, well that's Obama's objective achieved. And he's not attacking capitalism, he's attacking those who abuse capitalism - big difference.

You just don't do that. What do you say about the boom of the 1980s? Do you attack the so-called corporate raiders and "hostel" takeovers (eye-roll) or do you consider them part of the 80s economic success machine?
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« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2012, 08:20:57 pm »
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Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen?

Really?Huh
I thought he was an egghead professor and prominent member of the Harvard pampered East Coast Elite.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.


Actually what fires them up is that he is a Kenyan-born, crypto-muslim, baby-eating nig**r.
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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2012, 08:21:54 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.

If it fires up the birther crazies and rallies them to Romney, well that's Obama's objective achieved. And he's not attacking capitalism, he's attacking those who abuse capitalism - big difference.

You just don't do that. What do you say about the boom of the 1980s? Do you attack the so-called corporate raiders and "hostel" takeovers (eye-roll) or do you consider them part of the 80s economic success machine?

If you were to lose your job as a result, it's unlikely anyone'd shrug their shoulders and say "ah well, that's capitalism". That wouldn't make them some raving socialist.
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« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2012, 08:25:44 pm »
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If you were to lose your job as a result, it's unlikely anyone'd shrug their shoulders and say "ah well, that's capitalism".

Yes, that's what we do in America. That's what makes us a Capitalist society. This isn't something new...

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« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2012, 08:28:24 pm »
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I take the opposite view- this is intended to scare swing voters in the Rust Belt, especially low-info ones. Plays the protectionist, anti-Wall Street and elitist cards all in one shot. Romney needs to find an easy counterattack and then bring it back to Obama's record. If you're explaining you're losing, which is why Romney is so far losing the tactical battle on this issue. He can't afford to lose the strategic war.
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2012, 08:35:39 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2012, 08:35:39 pm »
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Romney has made his business record the main reason why he should be President, so it is fair to discuss it and even criticize it.
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2012, 08:44:12 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.
Obama was a constitutional law professor at Harvard. Romney's entire reason for being president is his work at Bain. This is a legitimit attack on Romney's record that he loves promoting. If he was running as Governor of Massachussets and Obama attacked his record there, would it be an attack on the entire state government? If he attacked him as head of the Olympics, would he be attacking the all the Olympic Games of the past? Obama attacking Romney while at Bain is just that, an attack on Romney's Baim record. Not an attack on capitalism collectively.
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« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2012, 08:56:55 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.

If it fires up the birther crazies and rallies them to Romney, well that's Obama's objective achieved. And he's not attacking capitalism, he's attacking those who abuse capitalism - big difference.

You just don't do that. What do you say about the boom of the 1980s? Do you attack the so-called corporate raiders and "hostel" takeovers (eye-roll) or do you consider them part of the 80s economic success machine?

"You just don't do that"?? Says who? Is our country now so dominated by the corporate elite that even the president isn't allowed to speak critically of them?

So what happens if us normal people dare to question the means by which these people have made their money? Will we get thrown in jail or something?

I'm not part of the "occupy" crowd, but in this country no powerful group of people is above scrutiny, especially when their juggling of billions of dollars of funds on any given day has the potential to throw us into a recession, as we have already seen. You can certainly make an argument for capitalism, and I might agree with you, but it's much more American to question and criticize the powerful than it is to keep quiet and let them do whatever they want.
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« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2012, 09:07:11 pm »
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I think for Republicans the problem with Obama's anti-Romney campaign is that it is working.

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« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2012, 09:32:09 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.

If it fires up the birther crazies and rallies them to Romney, well that's Obama's objective achieved. And he's not attacking capitalism, he's attacking those who abuse capitalism - big difference.

You just don't do that. What do you say about the boom of the 1980s? Do you attack the so-called corporate raiders and "hostel" takeovers (eye-roll) or do you consider them part of the 80s economic success machine?

You admit that the 80s economic success machine ran on smoke and mirrors and bullsh**t.
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« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2012, 09:32:54 pm »
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The problem with Obama and his cabal of deceipt purveyors is that they are lying about Romney and his tenure at Bain.

John King and David Gergen of CNN both agree on this and said so the other day.

This only goes to prove that the nation is being run by the most dishonest President since Nixon and that his inner circle is composed of 21st century Mitchells, Haldemans, and Ehrlichmans.
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« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2012, 09:35:55 pm »
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Oh, so now you guys are all about that "lamestream media"
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« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 09:37:14 pm »
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As much as it pains you, Naso, we're not in the '80s any more.  Wall Street is not exactly popular right now, and yet it just so happens that the GOP just nominated Gordon Gekko for the presidency.  No wonder Obama is capitalizing (pardon the pun) on that.

Also, it's only taken me seven years to bring this up, but the correct abbreviation of et cetera is 'etc.', not 'ect.'  I wouldn't mind, but you misuse it in every thread you create.
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« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2012, 09:40:49 pm »
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The Obama campaign has been targeting Romney viciously and unfairly over the last few weeks over his business career. Should I point out that Obama was a lawyer, which are much more disdained than businessmen? We'll leave that for another time.

What Obama is doing is exactly the thing that fires up the crazy "birthers" and the claims that he is a socialist or a communist.

He is attacking capitalism. He is attacking business. Business is capitalism. AMERICA is a capitalistic society. Remember, just over 20 short years ago, we would have had a nuclear war to prevent (or attempt to prevent) the loss of our capitalistic society. Now, we have a President who is blatantly and immorally attacking capitalism, capitalistic careers, ideas, ect.

Then you wonder why the crazies begin to call him a communist or socialist.

If it fires up the birther crazies and rallies them to Romney, well that's Obama's objective achieved. And he's not attacking capitalism, he's attacking those who abuse capitalism - big difference.

You just don't do that. What do you say about the boom of the 1980s? Do you attack the so-called corporate raiders and "hostel" takeovers (eye-roll) or do you consider them part of the 80s economic success machine?

You admit that the 80s economic success machine ran on smoke and mirrors and bullsh**t.

Given that it's Naso I'd assume he may know, but not care. The 80s was smoke, mirrors, and big hair, and it was glorious!
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« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2012, 10:51:46 pm »
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So what are we to assume? That the reason for some of the economic success of the 1980s was at the expense of others? That the whole notion of a nuclear war between Communists and Capitalists was just a misunderstanding and we should freely allow communist ideas to be taught and discussed as logical in America? I heard people scoff at the idea of executing the U.S. solider who was the perpetrator of the Wiki Leaks information. Did I miss the memo that suddenly treason wasn't punishable by death? Why? Because it is the year 2012? I heard Occupy Wall Street protestors openly saying they were communists. Why were they not considered an adversary? Did I miss the memo that communism is something that is "okay" and just another viewpoint? Why? Because the Warsaw Pact is gone?

"I urge you to beware the temptation of pride — the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong and good and evil.”

Ronald Reagan said that 29 years ago and dammit he was right. You're trying to disavow all these anti-Capitalistic ideas and say that my capitalism argument about the Cold War and what capitalism and business means to America is all just some misunderstanding and declare yourselves above it all.

There is right and wrong, good and evil. We are the last best hope for free men on Earth. If we change our ideals, which is what this President has shown at the very least an inclination for which to do, then we have truly lost our way.
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« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2012, 10:52:21 pm »
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You know when one side starts talking about  "unfair" attacks then they are losing. For decades Republicans have played a rather vicious game of divisive hardball politics and dems have continued to look like hapless losers. Clearly Axelrod and team know they have an uphill battle with the current economy so they are using the GOP playbook and it is working.
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The possibility exists that the world may not now be and may not twenty-nine years ago have been entirely divided into Ronald Reagans and Command and Conquer villains.
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« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2012, 11:06:09 pm »
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The possibility exists that the world may not now be and may not twenty-nine years ago have been entirely divided into Ronald Reagans and Command and Conquer villains.

Maybe in fiction, not in reality.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2012, 11:08:58 pm »
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America should expect more from those who are supposed to be running the country than the trash gutter politics that is the hallmark of this so called President and his venom spewing underlings.
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America should expect more from those who are supposed to be running the country than the trash gutter politics that is the hallmark of this so called President and his venom spewing underlings.
You do realize that the only reason Romney won the nomination is because he buried his opponents in negative advertising using those same "trash gutter politics" methods. His strategy was "Kill Newt" in Iowa and Florida. His strategy was "Kill Rick" in Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Illinois. Now when Obama uses it against Mitt and they are the ones getting "Killed", it's an attack on capitalism.
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« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2012, 11:47:51 pm »
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So what are we to assume? That the reason for some of the economic success of the 1980s was at the expense of others? That the whole notion of a nuclear war between Communists and Capitalists was just a misunderstanding and we should freely allow communist ideas to be taught and discussed as logical in America? I heard people scoff at the idea of executing the U.S. solider who was the perpetrator of the Wiki Leaks information. Did I miss the memo that suddenly treason wasn't punishable by death? Why? Because it is the year 2012? I heard Occupy Wall Street protestors openly saying they were communists. Why were they not considered an adversary? Did I miss the memo that communism is something that is "okay" and just another viewpoint? Why? Because the Warsaw Pact is gone?

"I urge you to beware the temptation of pride — the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong and good and evil.”

Ronald Reagan said that 29 years ago and dammit he was right. You're trying to disavow all these anti-Capitalistic ideas and say that my capitalism argument about the Cold War and what capitalism and business means to America is all just some misunderstanding and declare yourselves above it all.

There is right and wrong, good and evil. We are the last best hope for free men on Earth. If we change our ideals, which is what this President has shown at the very least an inclination for which to do, then we have truly lost our way.

You are literally the worst caricature of a Reagan supporter I have ever seen.
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« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2012, 05:22:37 am »
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Teddy Roosevelt was a staunch socialist, you know.
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