Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
December 21, 2014, 09:26:39 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Please delete your old personal messages.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  Presidential Election Trends (Moderators: Mr. Morden, Bacon King)
| | |-+  Does Andrew Cuomo need to get married if he wants to be president?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Does Andrew Cuomo need to get married if he wants to be president?  (Read 2218 times)
Mr. Morden
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20305
United States


View Profile
« on: July 15, 2012, 03:07:52 am »

Cuomo is divorced, and shares a NYC-area house with his current girlfriend (though obviously he spends a lot of his time in Albany now).  Is that a killer for any presidential ambitions he might have?  Will he need to get married if he wants to have any hope of winning the White House?  Would being unmarried not only hurt him in the general election, but the primaries as well?
Logged

HOG & Blondie: A Tale of Atlas Future

What is your opinion of this thread?

Watch Dave being briefed by the mods.

Being a moderator is basically like one giant party.  Except you're the one ruining the party and everyone hates you.
Odysseus
Scifiguy
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 885
United States


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 09:16:15 am »
Ignore

I was thinking about this recently.

If he has a stable relationship with his girlfriend, he should be fine. If he and his girlfriend break up inbetween now and then, it might hamper his campaign a bit. But he could still win, certainly.
Logged
morgieb
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5718
Australia


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 10:12:10 am »
Ignore

I don't think it's that relevant for a Democrat.
Logged
Bull Moose Base
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2698


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2012, 11:47:43 am »
Ignore

Doesn't need to.  Those days have gone the way of his marriage.  His ex was just arrested for DUI btw.

Because of the weird, obsolete same-state VP rule, his chance of ever being president take a huge hit if Hillary runs in 2016.  Ironic since Bill Clinton likely would never have been president if Mario Cuomo had run.  Unless, Jeb is nominated and wants to run with Rubio and it's bipartisan repeal.
Logged
Mr. Morden
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20305
United States


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2012, 04:27:58 pm »

Because of the weird, obsolete same-state VP rule, his chance of ever being president take a huge hit if Hillary runs in 2016.

Of course, that's true of any of the likely 2016 Democratic candidates.  Anyway, Cuomo wouldn't be too old in 2020.  If Clinton runs in 2016, then Cuomo likely sits out of the race and finishes his 2nd term.  Then if Clinton loses the GE, Cuomo runs in 2020.
Logged

HOG & Blondie: A Tale of Atlas Future

What is your opinion of this thread?

Watch Dave being briefed by the mods.

Being a moderator is basically like one giant party.  Except you're the one ruining the party and everyone hates you.
Vosem
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5772
United States


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2012, 04:30:53 pm »
Ignore

Keep in mind New York has no term limits. The elder Cuomo served three terms and was defeated running for a fourth. Pataki also served three terms.
Logged

Illegally selling arms to North Korea, providing most of the money to anti-Morales rebels in Bolivia, and using the remainder as hush money for his three ex-mistrisses. 
Supersonic
SupersonicVenue
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 5124
United Kingdom


Political Matrix
E: 3.61, S: 0.35

P P P

View Profile
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2012, 04:52:06 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.
Logged

Being a Libertarian is like having a fever, either you sweat it out or you die from it.
asexual trans victimologist
Nathan
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13104


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2012, 05:02:49 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.

I might care, but it probably wouldn't make me not vote for him.

Doesn't need to.  Those days have gone the way of his marriage.  His ex was just arrested for DUI btw.

Because of the weird, obsolete same-state VP rule, his chance of ever being president take a huge hit if Hillary runs in 2016.  Ironic since Bill Clinton likely would never have been president if Mario Cuomo had run.  Unless, Jeb is nominated and wants to run with Rubio and it's bipartisan repeal.

Hillary could just move back to Arkansas. Cheney did this; he was living in Texas at the beginning of 2000.
Logged

A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights.

His idea of freedom is - it is a bad thing and should be stopped at all costs.

Nathan-land.  As much fun as watching paint dry... literally.
realisticidealist
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6854
Vatican City State


Political Matrix
E: -0.13, S: 4.52

View Profile
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2012, 05:27:07 pm »
Ignore

I sorta kinda care, but I'm not voting for him anyway, so...
Logged

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love and be loved in return."
Mr. Morden
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20305
United States


View Profile
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2012, 06:09:32 pm »

Clinton wouldn't pick Cuomo as her running mate anyway.  She'd pick someone with more rural appeal, like a Jon Tester type (though perhaps not Tester himself, since his odds of still being in the Senate after this year aren't looking great at the moment).
Logged

HOG & Blondie: A Tale of Atlas Future

What is your opinion of this thread?

Watch Dave being briefed by the mods.

Being a moderator is basically like one giant party.  Except you're the one ruining the party and everyone hates you.
Beet
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16339


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2012, 06:18:45 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.

I might care, but it probably wouldn't make me not vote for him.

Why would you care?
Logged

RogueBeaver
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 15058
Canada


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2012, 06:22:11 pm »
Ignore

His marital issue is with the Democratic base.
Logged

7.35, 3.65

« Les plus nobles principes du monde ne valent que par l’action.  » - Charles de Gaulle



Is it excessive to hold a politician's feet to the fire for giving his base the run around at every turn?
Scott
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 18747
United States
View Profile
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2012, 07:27:58 pm »
Ignore

We once had a president who never had a wife (Buchanan, I believe it was), and I doubt this is an issue on many voters' minds.  So no.

I don't see why anyone should care, to be quite honest.
Logged
Bull Moose Base
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2698


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2012, 08:57:51 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.

I might care, but it probably wouldn't make me not vote for him.

Doesn't need to.  Those days have gone the way of his marriage.  His ex was just arrested for DUI btw.

Because of the weird, obsolete same-state VP rule, his chance of ever being president take a huge hit if Hillary runs in 2016.  Ironic since Bill Clinton likely would never have been president if Mario Cuomo had run.  Unless, Jeb is nominated and wants to run with Rubio and it's bipartisan repeal.

Hillary could just move back to Arkansas. Cheney did this; he was living in Texas at the beginning of 2000.

Didn't Cheney already have a Wyoming residence and just change which one he called his primary?  I don't think Clintons live in multiple states and doubt they'd go through too much hassle to allow VP Cuomo.

Clinton wouldn't pick Cuomo as her running mate anyway.  She'd pick someone with more rural appeal, like a Jon Tester type (though perhaps not Tester himself, since his odds of still being in the Senate after this year aren't looking great at the moment).

She'd be way more likely to pick Schweitzer than Tester but I definitely think Cuomo would be the VP frontrunner if it weren't for the same-state nonsense.  Clintons had good results ignoring the idea of VP as balance in 92 and are known to favor loyalists, which Cuomo is.  If Obama were popular enough in 2016, Hillary could also keep Biden as VP and Cuomo could still run in '24.  There were other reasons for Obama to favor Biden for VP over Bayh and Kaine but I've always had a pet theory that part of the appeal was that, at a moment Obama was sort of desperate for the Clintons' support, picking Biden as VP left the door open for Hillary 2016 without having to put Hillary herself on the ticket.
Logged
Rooney
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 773
United States


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2012, 09:55:27 pm »
Ignore

Yes he needs to get married. If I could marry Sandra Lee I know I would.
Logged



Political Matrix:
Economic score: +8.65
Social score: -8.00
asexual trans victimologist
Nathan
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13104


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2012, 11:01:47 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.

I might care, but it probably wouldn't make me not vote for him.

Why would you care?

Long-term cohabitation in relationships like this appears to be strikes me as fickle for fickleness's sake.
Logged

A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights.

His idea of freedom is - it is a bad thing and should be stopped at all costs.

Nathan-land.  As much fun as watching paint dry... literally.
Bull Moose Base
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2698


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2012, 11:08:03 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.

I might care, but it probably wouldn't make me not vote for him.

Why would you care?

Long-term cohabitation in relationships like this appears to be strikes me as fickle for fickleness's sake.

I would think being cheated on in a very public way and your kids' classmates being able to read about it in the paper etc. might make someone a little gun shy.  On the other hand, getting elected president with a different first lady is pretty nice revenge.
Logged
asexual trans victimologist
Nathan
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 13104


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2012, 11:38:47 pm »
Ignore

The only people who will care about this, or make it influence their vote, wouldn't have voted for Cuomo, let alone a Democrat, to start with.

I might care, but it probably wouldn't make me not vote for him.

Why would you care?

Long-term cohabitation in relationships like this appears to be strikes me as fickle for fickleness's sake.

I would think being cheated on in a very public way and your kids' classmates being able to read about it in the paper etc. might make someone a little gun shy.  On the other hand, getting elected president with a different first lady is pretty nice revenge.

Ah, okay. I wasn't aware of Cuomo's backstory here.

I definitely do still agree that becoming President married to someone else, even if it's Sandra Lee, would be the most hilarious revenge of all.
Logged

A shameless agrarian collectivist with no respect for private property or individual rights.

His idea of freedom is - it is a bad thing and should be stopped at all costs.

Nathan-land.  As much fun as watching paint dry... literally.
Napoleon
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 15488


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2012, 11:49:30 pm »
Ignore

I hope Cuomo is elected President unmarried.
Logged

When I was in the third grade, I thought that I was Jewish
Because I could count, my nose was big, and I kept my bank account fullish
I told my mom, tears blurring my vision
He said, "Mort, you've loved God since before circumcision"
OC
olawakandi
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 10171
United States


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2012, 01:41:19 pm »
Ignore

Nah, he already married RF's daughter Kerry Kennedy, and have had wonderful children by her. That's in itself enough.
Logged
Beet
Moderators
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 16339


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2012, 02:11:12 pm »
Ignore

I do think it's important that he maintains a good relationship with his children. I do also think that if his ex-wife really engages in self-destructive behavior it would pose an unwanted distraction to his career.
Logged

Mr. Morden
Moderator
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 20305
United States


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2012, 09:29:01 pm »

Btw, not really worth starting a new thread on this, so I'll put it in this existing Cuomo thread.....he's already raised almost $20 million for his reelection, even though the election isn't for over two years:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/17/nyregion/bigger-donations-aid-cuomos-campaign-treasury.html?src=recg

And his father talked up the possibility of Andrew running for prez a few weeks ago:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/nyregion/cuomos-father-speaks-of-presidential-future-for-son.html
Logged

HOG & Blondie: A Tale of Atlas Future

What is your opinion of this thread?

Watch Dave being briefed by the mods.

Being a moderator is basically like one giant party.  Except you're the one ruining the party and everyone hates you.
Phony Moderate
Obamaisdabest
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 8381
United States


View Profile
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2012, 10:13:43 pm »
Ignore

Anyone who votes or doesn't vote for a candidate based on their martial status is an idiot and really doesn't deserve the right to vote. Not that I would advocate taking away their right to vote, but they really don't deserve to have it.
Logged
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.20 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines