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« on: July 15, 2012, 08:19:33 pm »
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Caused by the resignation (at some point) of Tony Lloyd, who is the Labour candidate for Greater Manchester Police Commissioner. Lloyd previously chaired the PLP and had been an MP since 1983, representing the final incarnation of the Stretford constituency until 1997 when he moved over to Manchester Central. Lloyd had a majority of over 25pts in 2010 and Labour are now absolutely dominant here in local elections.

A proper profile later. But it's enough to know that this constituency is in Manchester and includes the city centre.

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Labour have picked Lucy Powell. At the time of her selection, Powell was Miliband's Chief of Staff. She was also the Labour candidate in Manchester Withington in 2010.

The LibDems have picked Marc Ramsbottom, a former city councillor and their candidate in the past two General Elections. No Tory candidate yet, but they're a minor party here.

Respect nominated one candidate who withdraw, and then another (more high profile) candidate who withdrew in protest at George Galloway's comments about rape.

Apparently there is a Pirate Party here as well these days and they're running someone called Loz Kaye. And some random Trots and the like.
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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 09:05:11 pm »
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I remember hearing a lot about Powell back in 2010, Miliband'll have her on the frontbench in no time.
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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2012, 01:08:45 am »
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Is Respect party named after Ali G by any chance Tongue?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 04:27:53 pm »
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According to Wikipedia.

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Respect is a socialist political party in England and Wales founded in 2004. Its name is a contrived acronym standing for Respect, Equality, Socialism, Peace, Environmentalism, Community and Trade Unionism.

If Respect is something more than a personal vehicle for George Galloway, which remains to be proved, they should have a good opportunity to build support over a four month campaign. Unless they do that, I doubt this is going to be an exciting contest.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 06:22:46 pm »
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They wouldn't even if it wasn't; the Asian areas of Manchester (which would not, for the most part, even count as such if they were in Bradford) are mostly in Gorton, except for Cheetham Hill which is in Blackley & Broughton.
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 12:30:35 am »
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former Councillor Marc Ramsbottom will stand for the LibDems
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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2012, 12:35:50 pm »
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Respect's candidate has withdrawn; cause appears to be George Galloway's comments about rape.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2012, 12:37:58 pm »
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What'd he say? He disapproves of the practice?
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« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 12:41:29 pm »
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Okay, I've looked it up and (unless you're thinking of his second set of comments) he wasn't talk about rape at all.
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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 12:42:14 pm »
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The Tories shouldn't even put a candidate up here, not even worth the money.
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« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 07:07:07 pm »
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It'd certainly liberate the anti-Tory vote.
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2012, 12:07:20 am »
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As people may recall, at the 2010 general election the good folk of Manchester Central awarded 153 votes to Socialist Labour, 54 to Socialist Equality and 59 to the Workers Revolutionary Party.

For the by-election they can share those numbers between the Communist League and the Socialist Party (of England and Wales, not of Great Britain).
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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2012, 01:58:14 am »
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As people may recall, at the 2010 general election the good folk of Manchester Central awarded 153 votes to Socialist Labour, 54 to Socialist Equality and 59 to the Workers Revolutionary Party.

For the by-election they can share those numbers between the Communist League and the Socialist Party (of England and Wales, not of Great Britain).

... and according to a poster on Vote UK TUSC are likely to stand a candidate as well.

As I hinted on the Corby thread, the United People's Party website says they have disowned their previously announced candidate.

The Pirate candidate, Loz Kaye, beat the Lib Dems in Bradford ward in May's Manchester council election (and wasn't that far behind the Greens and the Tories).
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2012, 03:58:02 am »
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Ah yes, I've seen that now, cheers YL

(I've updated the Wikipedia page on the by-election accordingly!)
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2012, 12:30:24 pm »
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Alan Valentine is now back, claiming he's a "Manchester Independent" candidate.
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2012, 10:42:03 am »
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Someone having some 'fun and games' has added my name to the Wikipedia article for this election as the Liberal Party candidate.

The fact my tweet "confirming" this was a joke has been lost somewhat so now I guess it's an experiment in how long it takes Wiki editors to undo it.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 02:25:20 pm »
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Someone having some 'fun and games' has added my name to the Wikipedia article for this election as the Liberal Party candidate.

The fact my tweet "confirming" this was a joke has been lost somewhat so now I guess it's an experiment in how long it takes Wiki editors to undo it.
Just bow to the inevitable and allow your name to go forward. If wikipedia says it then it must be true.
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2012, 02:25:28 am »
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"22 October 2012 11:55
The Chancellor of the Exchequer has this day appointed Anthony Joseph Lloyd to be Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead."

Candidates intending to stand so far:

Chris CASSIDY (UKIP)
Peter CLIFFORD (Communist League)
Alex DAVIDSON (TUSC)
Lee HOLMES (People's Democratic)
Loz KAYE (Pirate)
Eddy O'SULLIVAN (BNP)
Lucy POWELL (Labour)
Marc RAMSBOTTOM (Liberal Democrat)
Clive SEARLE (Respect)
Matthew SEPHTON (Conservative)
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« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2012, 01:12:32 pm »
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"22 October 2012 11:55
The Chancellor of the Exchequer has this day appointed Anthony Joseph Lloyd to be Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northstead."

Candidates intending to stand so far:

Chris CASSIDY (UKIP)
Peter CLIFFORD (Communist League)
Alex DAVIDSON (TUSC)
Lee HOLMES (People's Democratic)
Loz KAYE (Pirate)
Eddy O'SULLIVAN (BNP)
Lucy POWELL (Labour)
Marc RAMSBOTTOM (Liberal Democrat)
Clive SEARLE (Respect)
Matthew SEPHTON (Conservative)
You forgot Liam PENNINGTON (Liberal). See posts above for reference.
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2012, 12:31:13 pm »
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12 candidates.  Editing doktorb's list:

Chris CASSIDY (UKIP)
Peter CLIFFORD (Communist League)
Alex DAVIDSON (TUSC)
Tom DYLAN (Green)
Catherine HIGGINS (Respect)
Lee HOLMES (People's Democratic)
Howling Laud HOPE (Raving Loony)
Loz KAYE (Pirate)
Eddy O'SULLIVAN (BNP)
Lucy POWELL (Labour)
Marc RAMSBOTTOM (Liberal Democrat)
Matthew SEPHTON (Conservative)

Three from the far left (assuming Respect count as such) and no Liberal from Preston.

http://www.manchester.gov.uk/info/362/elections/4981/your_next_election/3
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2012, 03:28:12 pm »
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Helen Pidd in the Guardian:

Labour takes no chances in Manchester byelection after Bradford black eye
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2012, 05:10:30 pm »
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Ah, I see that my comment has not been deleted this time round. A positive development.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2012, 06:15:49 pm »
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Some vague speculation of a record low turnout.
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2012, 09:36:12 pm »
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Result soon. Speculation that the Tories may have lost their deposit.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2012, 09:43:15 pm »
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There's some dispute or other between the Tories and UKIP over a small number of votes; will determine who comes third, it seems. Bald men, comb, etc.
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