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Senator Snowstalker
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Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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In 2008, Nader's best state was...Arkansas, with 1.19% of the vote. Given that Arkansas is not known as a leftist hotbed or an environmentalist hub, this seems rather random. Any ideas?
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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A lot of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: MilesC56 on July 20, 2012, 10:53:53 pm
A
lot
very small number
of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
It was 1% of voters.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: memphis on July 20, 2012, 11:58:57 pm
Quote from: MilesC56 on July 20, 2012, 10:53:53 pm
A
lot
very small number
of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
It was 1% of voters.
Obama only won 77% of Democrats there; that's a still pretty big portion of Democrats defecting, regardless if they voted for McCain or Nader.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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PUMAs!!!111
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Joe Republic
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on July 21, 2012, 12:01:55 am
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.
Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's
third
best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%). His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.
The PUMA element has some truth to it. Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states. (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: Joe Republic on July 21, 2012, 11:40:22 am
Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on July 21, 2012, 12:01:55 am
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.
Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's
third
best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%). His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.
The PUMA element has some truth to it. Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states. (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
Arkansas was home to the only elected Green Party official in the country. He was a state legislator, if I recall. He later changed party affiliation to the Democrats. Oddly enough, the only elected Green Party official in the country is a city council member in the town right next to me.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.
PUMA country! Other than Maine.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on July 21, 2012, 01:02:10 pm
Quote from: Joe Republic on July 21, 2012, 11:40:22 am
Quote from: ChairmanSanchez on July 21, 2012, 12:01:55 am
I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.
Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's
third
best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%). His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.
The PUMA element has some truth to it. Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states. (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
Arkansas was home to the only elected Green Party official in the country. He was a state legislator, if I recall. He later changed party affiliation to the Democrats. Oddly enough, the only elected Green Party official in the country is a city council member in the town right next to me.
Maine also had a Green legislator,
John Eder
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: PioneerProgress on July 21, 2012, 05:03:58 pm
Maine also had a Green legislator,
John Eder
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They still kind of do, in
Ben Chipman
, who despite being elected as an independent in 2010, has long been active in the ME Greens and was also Eder's aide for four years.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: bgwah on July 21, 2012, 01:03:12 pm
And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.
PUMA country! Other than Maine.
Ironic given that McKinney probably has the same perceived flaw that made many PUMAs not vote for Obama.
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: SPC on July 22, 2012, 02:53:58 pm
Quote from: bgwah on July 21, 2012, 01:03:12 pm
And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.
PUMA country! Other than Maine.
Ironic given that McKinney probably has the same perceived flaw that made many PUMAs not vote for Obama.
Her name sounds white, though.
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Everybody's talking about
PUMA
.
But who or what is that ominous
PUMA
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Re: Ralph Nader in Arkansas
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Quote from: solarstorm2012 on July 24, 2012, 05:19:56 pm
Everybody's talking about
PUMA
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But who or what is that ominous
PUMA
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PUMA - Party Unity My Ass.
aka butthurt Hillary voters.
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