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« on: July 20, 2012, 10:49:48 PM »

In 2008, Nader's best state was...Arkansas, with 1.19% of the vote. Given that Arkansas is not known as a leftist hotbed or an environmentalist hub, this seems rather random. Any ideas?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2012, 10:53:53 PM »

A lot of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2012, 11:58:57 PM »

A lot very small number of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
It was 1% of voters.
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« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2012, 12:01:55 AM »

I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.
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« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2012, 12:16:19 AM »

A lot very small number of Democrats there didn't want to vote for Obama but social issues weren't enough to male them vote for McCain either.
It was 1% of voters.

Obama only won 77% of Democrats there; that's a still pretty big portion of Democrats defecting, regardless if they voted for McCain or Nader.
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« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2012, 01:01:32 AM »

PUMAs!!!111
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« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2012, 11:40:22 AM »

I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.

Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's third best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%).  His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.

The PUMA element has some truth to it.  Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states.  (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2012, 01:02:10 PM »

I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.

Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's third best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%).  His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.

The PUMA element has some truth to it.  Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states.  (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
Arkansas was home to the only elected Green Party official in the country. He was a state legislator, if I recall. He later changed party affiliation to the Democrats. Oddly enough, the only elected Green Party official in the country is a city council member in the town right next to me.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2012, 01:03:12 PM »

And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.

PUMA country! Other than Maine.
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« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2012, 05:03:58 PM »

I thought Naders best state was Maine, with 1.45% of the vote. His best county was in Idaho, however.

Indeed, Arkansas was in fact Nader's third best state after Maine (1.45%) and North Dakota (1.32%).  His second and third best counties after that one in Idaho were both in Arkansas, though.

The PUMA element has some truth to it.  Also, the Green Party is a lot stronger in Arkansas than most other states.  (Yes, I know Nader was not the Green candidate in 2008, but his association with the party and overall stature were more significant that McKinney's.)
Arkansas was home to the only elected Green Party official in the country. He was a state legislator, if I recall. He later changed party affiliation to the Democrats. Oddly enough, the only elected Green Party official in the country is a city council member in the town right next to me.

Maine also had a Green legislator, John Eder.
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2012, 01:29:15 PM »


They still kind of do, in Ben Chipman, who despite being elected as an independent in 2010, has long been active in the ME Greens and was also Eder's aide for four years.
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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2012, 02:53:58 PM »
« Edited: July 22, 2012, 03:16:18 PM by SPC »

And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.

PUMA country! Other than Maine.

Ironic given that McKinney probably has the same perceived flaw that made many PUMAs not vote for Obama. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2012, 06:23:47 PM »

And McKinney's top four states were Louisiana, Maine, West Virginia, and Arkansas.

PUMA country! Other than Maine.

Ironic given that McKinney probably has the same perceived flaw that made many PUMAs not vote for Obama. Tongue

Her name sounds white, though.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2012, 05:19:56 PM »

Everybody's talking about PUMA.
But who or what is that ominous PUMA? Huh
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« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2012, 05:33:16 PM »

Everybody's talking about PUMA.
But who or what is that ominous PUMA? Huh
PUMA - Party Unity My Ass.

aka butthurt Hillary voters.
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