Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 19, 2013, 03:48:07 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Please delete your old personal messages.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Atlas Fantasy Elections
| |-+  Atlas Fantasy Government (Moderators: Gustaf, MasterJedi)
| | |-+  SENATE BILL: Power to Parents Act (Failed)
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 Print
Author Topic: SENATE BILL: Power to Parents Act (Failed)  (Read 2266 times)
Senator Napoleon
Napoleon
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11702


Political Matrix
E: -3.35, S: -8.17

View Profile
« Reply #125 on: August 02, 2012, 11:23:14 am »
Ignore

How will it cost regions money?

The administrative costs will be quite hefty.
Logged

The only thing that is certain is that he's a douche! What he will infract is uncetain.
Governor Scott
Scott
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11528
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: -4.70

View Profile
« Reply #126 on: August 02, 2012, 11:43:05 am »
Ignore

I was under the impression that all the costs would be borne by the Feds, regardless of how much or how much the regions might have to spend from their budgets.  Nevertheless, this bill will be very expensive..
Logged

Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #127 on: August 02, 2012, 12:49:48 pm »
Ignore

Is my understanding correct that no agreement has been reached between the sponsor and the amendment sponsor and thus a vote is in order on it?
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #128 on: August 02, 2012, 01:36:22 pm »
Ignore

Quote
No Law requiring any action to be taken or to be not taken by a Region shall be passed, except to preserve the rights of the Senate or of the People enumerated under the Constitution.

I think you have misunderstood me throughout this debate. I've really thought about all the angles that could be taken here, I just couldn't find any that would work. It isn't that I didn't want to. I also felt it better to be honest when I plan on vetoing something because we have other things to debate, so I didn't mean for you to take it as me being rude. For example, how long should a good Senate sit on a resolution for authorizing force on Iran? Even if I disagree with that too I feel like you proposed it because you felt there was a sense of urgency. That's the only reason why I suggested tabling this bill, not because I wanted to "have my way".


Ah, Mr. President, there are three open slots that can be reasonably used to accomodate a rush on an issue such as the Iran Authortization (PPT, Emergency, and Foreign Policy), if such were requested by the sponsor. I was under the impression that the National Security committee wanted to paw through it first, as well.
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Senator Ben
benconstine
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 29899
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: 2.61

View Profile
« Reply #129 on: August 02, 2012, 01:54:26 pm »
Ignore

The NSC is going to handle the Treaty Ratification Amendment, and then we will handle the Iranian Resolution.
Logged

Obama High's debate team:

"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear.  I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments.  Let me be clear on this."
Senator Sbane
sbane
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 12213


View Profile
« Reply #130 on: August 02, 2012, 02:50:40 pm »
Ignore

How will it cost regions money?

The administrative costs will be quite hefty.

Could you expand on that a little further? Imnot seeing why those costs would rise.
Logged
clarence
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4357
United States


View Profile
« Reply #131 on: August 02, 2012, 03:08:39 pm »
Ignore

Is my understanding correct that no agreement has been reached between the sponsor and the amendment sponsor and thus a vote is in order on it?
Unfriendly... I believe assistance for districts to offset costs and assistance to parents is crucial for this bill

Sbane- I agree with you that I don't see costs would significantly rise and if they do- so be it. I believe this is a worthy expenditure that will improve the education fo rmany across the country
Logged

"I have not yet begun to fight"
Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #132 on: August 03, 2012, 10:33:34 am »
Ignore

Quote from: Amendent 50:17 by TJ in Cleve
Power to Parents Act

...

3. Families may apply to the school district for financial assistance for the purposes of transportation of the student to and from school Families will be responsible to provide transportation to their students who elect to attend a school other than that which the student would attend without parental choice.

4. To fund this financial assistance $1,000,000,000 will be allocated to the regions proximate to population, to then be allocated to school districts by the same criterion
   -This spending will be placed under the line item “School Choice Transportation Assistance”


...


Sponsor Feedback: Unfriendly
Status: Senators a vote is now open on the amendment, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2012, 10:35:16 am by Senator North Carolina Yankee »Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Redalgo
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1695
United States


View Profile
« Reply #133 on: August 03, 2012, 01:56:18 pm »
Ignore

Nay
Logged

Social liberal with market socialist, sentiocentric, and cosmopolitan tendencies.
Political Matrix results on 13/2/2013: -1.16 (Economic), -8.00 (Social)
Governor Scott
Scott
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11528
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: -4.70

View Profile
« Reply #134 on: August 03, 2012, 02:05:18 pm »
Ignore

Nay.
Logged

clarence
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4357
United States


View Profile
« Reply #135 on: August 03, 2012, 02:10:39 pm »
Ignore

Nay

I appreciate the intent of the sponsor... but believe it takes away a good chunk of what we need to make this policy a success and impact those who we want to reach
Logged

"I have not yet begun to fight"
Senator Ben
benconstine
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 29899
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: 2.61

View Profile
« Reply #136 on: August 03, 2012, 02:59:50 pm »
Ignore

Nay
Logged

Obama High's debate team:

"Now let me be clear...I...I...um...uh...now let me be clear.  I strongly condemn the affirmative in the strongest possible terms, and I am closely monitoring their arguments.  Let me be clear on this."
TJ in Wisco
TJ in Cleve
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3392
United States


Political Matrix
E: 2.45, S: 7.30

View Profile
« Reply #137 on: August 03, 2012, 03:00:23 pm »
Ignore

Aye
Logged

Senator Sbane
sbane
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 12213


View Profile
« Reply #138 on: August 03, 2012, 11:39:12 pm »
Ignore

Nay...still conflicted about the whole bill. Let's see what we end up with.
Logged
ModerateCoward
seatown
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3918


View Profile
« Reply #139 on: August 04, 2012, 01:54:51 am »
Ignore

Nay
Logged
Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #140 on: August 04, 2012, 09:51:47 am »
Ignore

Aye



Aye (2): NC Yankee and TJ in Cleve
Nay (6): Ben, Clarence, Redalgo, sbane, Scott and Seatown
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): AndrewPA and Worms

The amendment is not adopted.
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #141 on: August 05, 2012, 03:19:37 pm »
Ignore

Well, what is next?
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



clarence
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4357
United States


View Profile
« Reply #142 on: August 05, 2012, 09:16:49 pm »
Ignore

I believe we are ready for a final vote....however if anyone has a request or comments, I am of course willing to discuss further-
Logged

"I have not yet begun to fight"
Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #143 on: August 06, 2012, 03:43:28 pm »
Ignore

Senators this bill is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Governor Scott
Scott
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 11528
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.19, S: -4.70

View Profile
« Reply #144 on: August 06, 2012, 04:03:30 pm »
Ignore

What is the final text?
Logged

Redalgo
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1695
United States


View Profile
« Reply #145 on: August 06, 2012, 08:17:08 pm »
Ignore

Nay
Logged

Social liberal with market socialist, sentiocentric, and cosmopolitan tendencies.
Political Matrix results on 13/2/2013: -1.16 (Economic), -8.00 (Social)
Senator Sbane
sbane
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 12213


View Profile
« Reply #146 on: August 07, 2012, 01:02:31 am »
Ignore

Nay.

I don't think this bill works but we could encourage the regions to pass a law similar to what the Northeast has. In the end I came to the conclusion that the best thing to do was to pass what the Northeast has, but since my colleagues found that compelling regions to do it by denying them funding was unconstitutional, I have no choice but to abandon this bill.
Logged
ModerateCoward
seatown
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3918


View Profile
« Reply #147 on: August 07, 2012, 01:28:14 am »
Ignore

Nay
Logged
clarence
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4357
United States


View Profile
« Reply #148 on: August 07, 2012, 01:07:07 pm »
Ignore

Aye
Logged

"I have not yet begun to fight"
Senator North Carolina Yankee
North Carolina Yankee
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 21417
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.45, S: 3.22

View Profile
« Reply #149 on: August 07, 2012, 06:07:22 pm »
Ignore

Quote from: Final Text
Power to Parents Act

1. Each school governing authority in the Republic of Atlasia will be given the option of adopting the policies put forward by this legislation.  Districts that apply will be rewarded $1,000,000 for participation. The participation reward shall be allocated according to need by the school governing authority to schools within the district and will be used only for the purposes of providing resources to expand the school's capacity for students.

2. Parents or legal guardians may choose to send their child to any public school within their school district of residence
   -”School district” refers to the governing area of a particular board, government, or administration established to operate K-12 education

3. Families may apply to the school district for financial assistance for the purposes of transportation of the student to and from school

4. To fund this financial assistance $1,000,000,000 will be allocated to the regions proximate to population, to then be allocated to school districts by the same criterion
   -This spending will be placed under the line item “School Choice Transportation Assistance”

5. The funding for this line item will be an additional appropriation in the budget
Logged

He's BACK!!! His Time Has Come Once Again! Now We're All Gonna Die! No One is Safe From His Wrath!



Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.18 | SMF © 2013, Simple Machines
Forums Directory