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« on: July 22, 2012, 11:11:00 pm »
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Christianity was created by some decadent and degenerated Romans as a tool of oppression, in the late Roman era, and it should be treated accordingly. It is like handcuffs to the mind and spirit and is nothing but destructive to mankind. In fact, I don't really see Christianity as a religion. It is more like a spiritual plague, a mass psychosis, and it should first and foremost be treated as a problem to be solved by the medical science. Christianity is a diagnosis. It's like Islam and the other Asian religions, a HIV/AIDS of the spirit and mind.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 12:40:09 am »
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 01:03:32 am »
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Part of the reason I became a Christian again at 18 was to be anti-metalhead and especially anti-black metal. What a sick and disgusting subculture.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 03:11:13 am »
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     I like the guy's music & think his message has a place in the discourse on religion (not the churchburning part, of course), but I just don't see any good coming out of this topic.
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 08:45:59 am »
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Not an all accurate description of history.


Part of the reason I became a Christian again at 18 was to be anti-metalhead and especially anti-black metal. What a sick and disgusting subculture.

*facepalm* BRTD once again shows why his "Christianity" is shallow.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 11:47:42 am »
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« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2012, 07:09:11 pm »
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Part of the reason I became a Christian again at 18 was to be anti-metalhead and especially anti-black metal. What a sick and disgusting subculture.

To be fair though, not all metal is like black metal, and especially not like Varg Vikernes's version of metal. Heck, there's even Christian metal out there.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 01:52:04 am »
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Part of the reason I became a Christian again at 18 was to be anti-metalhead and especially anti-black metal. What a sick and disgusting subculture.

To be fair though, not all metal is like black metal, and especially not like Varg Vikernes's version of metal. Heck, there's even Christian metal out there.

Yes, but I dislike the entire metal subculture. And I can't stand the music.

Dibble, I've said before that I believe God once made my mom clean the upstairs living room on a certain Saturday afternoon when I was 15. Had she not had done so on that day, I would've been able to watch TV instead of leaving because the vacuum was too loud, and wouldn't have gone downstairs to the computer and browsed a certain website, and found a certain board on it at a certain time, which included references to a "hardcore" board which I checked out of curiosity, which got me involved in "the scene". And then I wouldn't have become a Christian again and would've probably ended up an Einzige-esque atheist at the rate things were going. My entire life was radically changed because of my mom's cleaning schedule. I do believe God had a hand in that.
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 03:11:52 am »
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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 06:35:06 am »
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Dibble, I've said before that I believe God once made my mom clean the upstairs living room on a certain Saturday afternoon when I was 15. Had she not had done so on that day, I would've been able to watch TV instead of leaving because the vacuum was too loud, and wouldn't have gone downstairs to the computer and browsed a certain website, and found a certain board on it at a certain time, which included references to a "hardcore" board which I checked out of curiosity, which got me involved in "the scene". And then I wouldn't have become a Christian again and would've probably ended up an Einzige-esque atheist at the rate things were going. My entire life was radically changed because of my mom's cleaning schedule. I do believe God had a hand in that.

And a lot of people believe Allah had a hand in bringing them to Islam. I don't particularly care what you believe so much as why you believe it, and the reasons you tend to give range from inane to just plain dumb.

To say that you became a Christian because you wanted to be anti-metalhead is to show you have a dumb reason for becoming a Christian. The only good reason to adopt a belief is because you think it's actually true.
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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 07:53:26 am »
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I just want to point out that BRTD's argument is basically:  Mundane events culminated in my belief in God; because mundane events culminated in it, I take that as evidence of God's intervention.

The dumb part of that post isn't the metal stuff.  The dumb part of the post is that he presented an argument that five seconds of thought would have told him is nonsensically self-referential.
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 01:19:34 am »
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Dibble, I've said before that I believe God once made my mom clean the upstairs living room on a certain Saturday afternoon when I was 15. Had she not had done so on that day, I would've been able to watch TV instead of leaving because the vacuum was too loud, and wouldn't have gone downstairs to the computer and browsed a certain website, and found a certain board on it at a certain time, which included references to a "hardcore" board which I checked out of curiosity, which got me involved in "the scene". And then I wouldn't have become a Christian again and would've probably ended up an Einzige-esque atheist at the rate things were going. My entire life was radically changed because of my mom's cleaning schedule. I do believe God had a hand in that.

And a lot of people believe Allah had a hand in bringing them to Islam. I don't particularly care what you believe so much as why you believe it, and the reasons you tend to give range from inane to just plain dumb.

To say that you became a Christian because you wanted to be anti-metalhead is to show you have a dumb reason for becoming a Christian. The only good reason to adopt a belief is because you think it's actually true.

I should point out it's quite common for people to associate with religions for "shallow" reasons, for example take a look at all the people who claim to be Catholic just because they were raised that way that don't believe in Catholic teachings at all.

But I'm oversimplifying a bit in the above posts, remember I didn't become a Christian until I was in college. That just made me take a second look, and then realize I liked the people involved better, and then I started believing it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 03:22:33 am »
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A just God would have smote you for not doing your chores.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2012, 02:16:08 am »
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Dibble, I've said before that I believe God once made my mom clean the upstairs living room on a certain Saturday afternoon when I was 15. Had she not had done so on that day, I would've been able to watch TV instead of leaving because the vacuum was too loud, and wouldn't have gone downstairs to the computer and browsed a certain website, and found a certain board on it at a certain time, which included references to a "hardcore" board which I checked out of curiosity, which got me involved in "the scene". And then I wouldn't have become a Christian again and would've probably ended up an Einzige-esque atheist at the rate things were going. My entire life was radically changed because of my mom's cleaning schedule. I do believe God had a hand in that.

And a lot of people believe Allah had a hand in bringing them to Islam. I don't particularly care what you believe so much as why you believe it, and the reasons you tend to give range from inane to just plain dumb.

To say that you became a Christian because you wanted to be anti-metalhead is to show you have a dumb reason for becoming a Christian. The only good reason to adopt a belief is because you think it's actually true.

I should point out it's quite common for people to associate with religions for "shallow" reasons, for example take a look at all the people who claim to be Catholic just because they were raised that way that don't believe in Catholic teachings at all.

But I'm oversimplifying a bit in the above posts, remember I didn't become a Christian until I was in college. That just made me take a second look, and then realize I liked the people involved better, and then I started believing it.

Yes, none of your arguments have been good, but it's true that one was more ridiculous than usual.
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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2012, 01:48:17 pm »
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Part of the reason I became a Christian again at 18 was to be anti-metalhead and especially anti-black metal. What a sick and disgusting subculture.

To be fair though, not all metal is like black metal, and especially not like Varg Vikernes's version of metal. Heck, there's even Christian metal out there.

Yes, but I dislike the entire metal subculture. And I can't stand the music.

Dibble, I've said before that I believe God once made my mom clean the upstairs living room on a certain Saturday afternoon when I was 15. Had she not had done so on that day, I would've been able to watch TV instead of leaving because the vacuum was too loud, and wouldn't have gone downstairs to the computer and browsed a certain website, and found a certain board on it at a certain time, which included references to a "hardcore" board which I checked out of curiosity, which got me involved in "the scene". And then I wouldn't have become a Christian again and would've probably ended up an Einzige-esque atheist at the rate things were going. My entire life was radically changed because of my mom's cleaning schedule. I do believe God had a hand in that.

You have to be kidding.
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