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Question: Who would you vote for in this matchup?
Bob Casey (D)   -23 (60.5%)
Tom Smith (R)   -15 (39.5%)
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« on: July 23, 2012, 07:14:19 pm »
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Three days.

Tom Smith.
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« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2012, 07:15:29 pm »
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Smith, even though he has no chance of winning.
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« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2012, 07:28:27 pm »
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Bob Casey.
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« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2012, 07:38:37 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2012, 11:51:31 pm »
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My current senator.
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« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2012, 11:58:07 pm »
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I like Casey, but Smith's inoffensive enough that I'll probably vote Republican through force of habit.
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 01:51:09 am »
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Neither, but Tom Smith as an alternative to the awfulness that is Bob Casey.
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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 12:16:16 pm »
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Bob Casey Jr
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 04:53:01 pm »
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From Tom Smith's website:
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Getting Pennsylvania Back To Work
Tom knows that jobs are created by the free market, not politicians in Washington. The Obama-Casey policies have led to record job loss. Whether it is the bank bailout, the auto bailout, or the stimulus, Bob Casey has supported policies in Washington that have hurt America’s economic competitiveness. Tom Smith has made a payroll and grown a business in a difficult environment. He knows what it takes to create jobs. He will support the pro-growth policies we need to get Pennsylvania working again.

The bolded is dishonest. It pains me to see Republican candidates misrepresenting the truth so flagrantly. I lose a lot of respect for candidates, Democrat or Republican, who feel they can simply make up their own facts to sell their point. Job growth is slower than where it needs to be, everyone agrees on that. The effectiveness of Obama's policies in changing that is up for debate. What isn't up for debate are the statistics on private sector job creation, which has been showing a net positive since early 2010. Unless Tom Smith is arguing for more public sector jobs, then he is misrepresenting reality. Good candidates do not need this sort of dumbassery to make their point and I'm disappointed that Tom Smith believes that he does.

That said, I've never thought much of Bob Casey. I find him to be pompous, entitled, and especially ineffective (0-324 on sponsored legislation since taking office isn't a good selling point). I would begrudgingly vote for the desperate Republican.
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2012, 11:08:11 am »
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My choice is obvious but my points/criticisms from the primary remain.
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And you're a fucking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2012, 12:43:23 pm »
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on July 25, 2012, 11:08:11 am
My choice is obvious but my points/criticisms from the primary remain.

Who did you support in the primary?
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 01:42:44 pm »
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I'll hold my nose and vote for Casey. I've never been a fan of his, but he's less offensive than Smith.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2012, 08:08:40 pm »
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Smith, but Casey wins.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2012, 08:56:48 pm »
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Casey, who of course will win. It will be interesting to compare the results to 2006 with a far less controversial candidate but without Santorum's political advantages.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 11:45:33 am »
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This will probably be the IRL result as well.
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Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman 20RP12 on July 25, 2012, 12:43:23 pm
Quote from: Keystone Phil on July 25, 2012, 11:08:11 am
My choice is obvious but my points/criticisms from the primary remain.

Who did you support in the primary?

Welch (which may surprise you but really shouldn't. I wasn't thrilled with the primary field though. I wish Burns had stayed in.)
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Quote from: Representative Wyodon on May 06, 2013, 04:31:05 pm
And you're a fucking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
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« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2012, 09:17:25 am »
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Quote from: Keystone Phil on July 29, 2012, 09:13:29 am
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman 20RP12 on July 25, 2012, 12:43:23 pm
Quote from: Keystone Phil on July 25, 2012, 11:08:11 am
My choice is obvious but my points/criticisms from the primary remain.

Who did you support in the primary?

Welch (which may surprise you but really shouldn't. I wasn't thrilled with the primary field though. I wish Burns had stayed in.)

Wasn't he the super establishment type? I was pulling for Rohrer, but even before him I was pulling for John Vernon.
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2012, 01:34:43 pm »
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Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman 20RP12 on July 29, 2012, 09:17:25 am
Quote from: Keystone Phil on July 29, 2012, 09:13:29 am
Quote from: Mideast Assemblyman 20RP12 on July 25, 2012, 12:43:23 pm
Quote from: Keystone Phil on July 25, 2012, 11:08:11 am
My choice is obvious but my points/criticisms from the primary remain.

Who did you support in the primary?

Welch (which may surprise you but really shouldn't. I wasn't thrilled with the primary field though. I wish Burns had stayed in.)

Wasn't he the super establishment type? I was pulling for Rohrer, but even before him I was pulling for John Vernon.

He was the establishment pick and I wasn't too fond of how he got the party's backing but he was the best candidate. I had my issues with him but he is very intelligent, very articulate and not a RINO (like he was being made out to be). Coincidentally, today is his birthday.

I personally like Rohrer and have some loose connections to him but I thought Welch was a far better candidate.
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And you're a fucking asshole. How about you try actually contributing something to a debate at some point, or are you too busy kissing Rick Santorum's ass?
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Smith, even though he has no chance of winning.
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