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« Reply #75 on: July 31, 2012, 01:47:30 pm »
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« Reply #76 on: July 31, 2012, 04:32:26 pm »
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OK, guys, I think I've figured out a name for my ideology. What about: neoliberalism?
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« Reply #77 on: August 01, 2012, 06:10:03 am »
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Mine is called: secular conservatism.
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« Reply #78 on: August 01, 2012, 12:00:01 pm »
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Pragmatic liberalism
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« Reply #79 on: August 13, 2012, 06:07:54 pm »
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Hmmm...half libertarian eco-socialism (in other words, run by worker/consumer co-operatives rather than government), half Keynesian social democracy. 
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« Reply #80 on: August 13, 2012, 08:27:40 pm »
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Can I change my answer?

My ideology is called 'being right'
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« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2012, 02:37:10 am »
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In practice, my worldview is usually that of a pragmatic progressive/realistic liberal.

However, I judge policies based on their merits, not whether they are "centre-right" or centre-left", so I might describe myself as non-ideological.
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« Reply #82 on: August 14, 2012, 11:35:33 am »
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Paternalistic libertarianism.

Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?
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« Reply #83 on: August 14, 2012, 11:52:03 am »
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you aren't a libertarian
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« Reply #84 on: August 14, 2012, 11:54:48 am »

Paternalistic libertarianism.

Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?

So is the concept the Third Way. Didn't stop Cinton and Blair winning elections.

Anyway, I suppose it sounds a bit of an oxymoron, as I wouldn't describe it as a pure libertarian ideology, just taking the good aspects. My view is that government needs to create a flat income tax rate and abolish business and inheritance taxes, as well as ending redistributionist social programs that cost far too much money, and tend to engender poverty. However, I also believe that government must ensure that proper standards are maintained, of decency and law. I believe it needs to make prostitution and pornography illegal (or as difficult as possible to get), as well as taking a tough line on crime, with the death penalty being used for murder and rape.

If murder is indecent, why should the state response to the taking of a life be to take that of another? Particularly if the justice system rests on human judgement which can be erroneous. Why impose a penalty (death) that can never be appealed if it is determined in a court of law that there has been a miscarriage of justice?
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« Reply #85 on: August 14, 2012, 11:56:55 am »
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you aren't a libertarian

As I said, I only support aspects of the ideology. I don't think anyone has ever fully supported every aspect of an ideology.
calling yourself libertarian is like calling yourself communist, there's not really much room for leeway. actually even less.
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« Reply #86 on: August 14, 2012, 11:58:16 am »
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Paternalistic libertarianism.

Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?

So is the concept the Third Way. Didn't stop Cinton and Blair winning elections.

Anyway, I suppose it sounds a bit of an oxymoron, as I wouldn't describe it as a pure libertarian ideology, just taking the good aspects. My view is that government needs to create a flat income tax rate and abolish business and inheritance taxes, as well as ending redistributionist social programs that cost far too much money, and tend to engender poverty. However, I also believe that government must ensure that proper standards are maintained, of decency and law. I believe it needs to make prostitution and pornography illegal (or as difficult as possible to get), as well as taking a tough line on crime, with the death penalty being used for murder and rape.

You seem to be a economic libertarian and a social conservative. Or rather, a generic right wing American conservative. Of course, it isn't my place to say what your ideology should be called or what-not.
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« Reply #87 on: August 14, 2012, 12:13:15 pm »
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Paternalistic libertarianism.

Isn't that a bit of an oxymoron?

So is the concept the Third Way. Didn't stop Cinton and Blair winning elections.

Anyway, I suppose it sounds a bit of an oxymoron, as I wouldn't describe it as a pure libertarian ideology, just taking the good aspects. My view is that government needs to create a flat income tax rate and abolish business and inheritance taxes, as well as ending redistributionist social programs that cost far too much money, and tend to engender poverty. However, I also believe that government must ensure that proper standards are maintained, of decency and law. I believe it needs to make prostitution and pornography illegal (or as difficult as possible to get), as well as taking a tough line on crime, with the death penalty being used for murder and rape.

The term for paternalistic libertarianism is 'conservatism'.
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« Reply #88 on: August 14, 2012, 12:17:22 pm »
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you aren't a libertarian

As I said, I only support aspects of the ideology. I don't think anyone has ever fully supported every aspect of an ideology.
calling yourself libertarian is like calling yourself communist, there's not really much room for leeway. actually even less.

History says there's rather a lot of room for leeway in both ideologies.
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« Reply #89 on: August 14, 2012, 12:22:30 pm »
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you aren't a libertarian

As I said, I only support aspects of the ideology. I don't think anyone has ever fully supported every aspect of an ideology.
calling yourself libertarian is like calling yourself communist, there's not really much room for leeway. actually even less.

History says there's rather a lot of room for leeway in both ideologies.

Yeah. Anyone seriously comparing Maoism or whatever Pol Pot advocated to original Marxism or even Marxism-Leninism is in for a surprise.
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« Reply #90 on: August 14, 2012, 04:40:57 pm »
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Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.

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« Reply #91 on: August 14, 2012, 04:52:21 pm »
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Well I have a theory on that. The vast majority of those falsely convicted were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Most crime tends to happen in unpleasant, seedy places, or at times when law-abiding people are less likely to be out. Therefore I have a theory that most of these people in these areas are probably criminals, or of a criminal bent, so in reality its just saving the trouble of arresting them for an offence they might commit in the future.
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« Reply #92 on: August 14, 2012, 06:21:28 pm »
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Pro-life libertarian is as near a description as I could muster.

Classical liberal is apt as well.
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« Reply #93 on: August 14, 2012, 07:29:17 pm »
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So you mean if we force the gay to be exposed to the straight, we are treating the gay indecently?  Because you didn't specify which direction the hate was supposed to go there, Black Beans.
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« Reply #94 on: August 15, 2012, 05:09:32 pm »
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Progressive Realism. Tongue
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« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2012, 01:05:18 am »
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Progressive Realism. Tongue
did you get that term from Robert Wright?
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« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2012, 01:07:06 am »
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I consider myself a moderate, establishment conservative.
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« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2012, 08:33:18 pm »
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I now define my ideology as Mustafinism-Komovism (Мустафинизм-комовизм).
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« Reply #98 on: September 13, 2012, 05:45:48 pm »
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Left-leaning Christian Democrat
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« Reply #99 on: September 13, 2012, 06:10:08 pm »
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Pragmatist Third Way Democrat. A little left of center. More progressive than Mark Warner but more moderate than Barack Obama.
I'm a Reagan-Clinton Democrat.
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