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Darius_Addicus_Gaius
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« on: July 27, 2012, 12:06:02 AM »

This is so refreshing. Does anyone remember Obama prancing around Europe and sucking up to the socialists over there in 2008? Romney is showing that he's not going to be cowarding or intimidated by non-American leaders.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2012, 12:18:17 AM »

This is so refreshing. Does anyone remember Obama prancing around Europe and sucking up to the socialists over there in 2008? Romney is showing that he's not going to be cowarding or intimidated by non-American leaders.

The truly depressing thing about this post is that it represents ~30-40% of the American electorate.

30-40%? That's a huge base! I'd say most Americans wouldn't put up with the jibberish from the European socialists either and that only the far left or in other words, half the Democratic Party who has been brought up in a leftist background would side with how Obama pranced around in 2008.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2012, 12:21:14 AM »

This is so refreshing. Does anyone remember Obama prancing around Europe and sucking up to the socialists over there in 2008? Romney is showing that he's not going to be cowarding or intimidated by non-American leaders.


The truly depressing thing about this post is that it represents ~30-40% of the American electorate.

Also known as the Republican party, an increasingly moronic and irrelevant political entity.

As irrelevant as they were in 2010 or irrelevant to Democrats? A Republican could also say that the Democratic Party is becoming irrelevant. Moronic because they disagree with you? Are you so arrogant that you assume you're right all the time or are you at least open minded to the other side? Let me guess you're going to quote me a "study" now that was performed by liberal scholars and students to show that the GOP is less educated or somehow deficient in their thinking compared to Democrats and then act like the study wasn't one sided. Look I'm trying to make friends here but I don't like when people are insulted for holding political views that are liberal, conservative, or whatever.
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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2012, 12:27:45 AM »

So, insulting your allies=embracing American exceptionalism.

Some would percieve it that way, yes. I'm not endorsing it, but Romney would have more support back home if he went over like Chris Christie. (Instead of bumbling around trying to look professional.)

I agree. Ronald Reagan was as conservative as anyone and it was never a problem. As much as Bush was criticized and made fun of he overcame it. It's all about selling a set of ideas to 10% of the country rather than selling issue by issue. He should come up with a sound ideology and explain why it will work for the issues.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2012, 12:43:45 AM »

So, insulting your allies=embracing American exceptionalism.

Some would percieve it that way, yes. I'm not endorsing it, but Romney would have more support back home if he went over like Chris Christie. (Instead of bumbling around trying to look professional.)

I agree. Ronald Reagan was as conservative as anyone and it was never a problem. As much as Bush was criticized and made fun of he overcame it. It's all about selling a set of ideas to 10% of the country rather than selling issue by issue. He should come up with a sound ideology and explain why it will work for the issues.

I love election years...

Yep things intensify and the battles heat up! Gotta love it
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2012, 01:08:24 AM »

Ronald Reagan was as conservative as anyone and it was never a problem.

Back in his day, yes. Nowadays he'd be considered a socialist.

What?
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2012, 01:31:20 AM »

Ronald Reagan was as conservative as anyone and it was never a problem.

Back in his day, yes. Nowadays he'd be considered a socialist.

What?
He's making a comparison of Obama and Reagan. Conservatives keep making the claim of Obama being a socialist, with little to no evidence backing it up. Reagan nowadays would be considered a moderate conservative. He proposed amnesty to illegal immigrants, an assault weapons ban, and the closure of tax loopholes on the rich. He sayed "a millionaire has no business paying less than a bus driver in taxes." in other words, Obama has proposed a lot of things that past Republican Presidents and party members supported. but now that Obama supports them, they are bad and "European Style Socialism."

Well I think Obama tries to make it sound like he's a moderate in order to get elected. "At some point you've made enough money" and "I'm just looking to spread the wealth" sound very socialist. The GOP has moved to the right since Reagan was in office and the Democrats have moved to the left. Really the only past Republican Presidents that pass for conservative are Reagan and George W. Bush in terms of today's GOP.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2012, 01:56:43 AM »

Ronald Reagan was as conservative as anyone and it was never a problem.

Back in his day, yes. Nowadays he'd be considered a socialist.


What?
He's making a comparison of Obama and Reagan. Conservatives keep making the claim of Obama being a socialist, with little to no evidence backing it up. Reagan nowadays would be considered a moderate conservative. He proposed amnesty to illegal immigrants, an assault weapons ban, and the closure of tax loopholes on the rich. He sayed "a millionaire has no business paying less than a bus driver in taxes." in other words, Obama has proposed a lot of things that past Republican Presidents and party members supported. but now that Obama supports them, they are bad and "European Style Socialism."

Well I think Obama tries to make it sound like he's a moderate in order to get elected. "At some point you've made enough money" and "I'm just looking to spread the wealth" sound very socialist. The GOP has moved to the right since Reagan was in office and the Democrats have moved to the left. Really the only past Republican Presidents that pass for conservative are Reagan and George W. Bush in terms of today's GOP.
Obama really is moderate. If you think of all the things he's attempted to pass in the past 4 years, the deficit would probably smaller than it is right now. Hillary Clinton was more to the left of him, and that's one of the reason working class people liked her. Think about it, the watered down stimulus that was 2/3 tax cuts to people and small businesses. Every President (including The Gipper) use stimulus to get out of recession. Republicans called it reckless spending. But that's what they plan on doing in the White House, billions of dollars in tax cuts. Or the watered down Health Care bill that was originally the Republican alternative to HillaaryCare. He's not some far leftist, he's more left of center like Bill Clinton and Tony Blair.

No I've heard all this before. There is nothing moderate about requiring people to buy a product or about the government deciding who pays how much for health care. Nothing is moderate about $50 million in honey bee insurance that was included in the stimulus bill either. None of that ever works anyways. If Obama wanted to bail us out of the recession so bad then he would've done it as a senator by proposing that bill before being elected. Yes the Republicans once called for requiring people to buy health insurance but none of the other 2,700 pages were in their agenda. Government controlling costs and deciding who pays what was never a conservative idea and neither was jail time for people who don't want health insurance. The only true tax cut is to make it a flat tax rate where everyone pays the same percent while cutting spending across the board in order to make the government smaller.
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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2012, 12:09:18 PM »

Does anyone remember how poorly Bush was treated overseas? Let's remember this poor treatment goes both ways not just against conservatives.
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2012, 12:46:13 PM »

Does anyone remember how poorly Bush was treated overseas?

Old Europe or New Europe?

I'm not sure what you mean. I mean all over the world. The Chinese locked a door for him so that he would get stuck on stage. The guy went to Iraq and somebody threw shoes at him. The French wouldn't budge on Iraq because they were getting barrels of oil for 4 cents. Bush just never got a break.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2012, 02:18:57 PM »

Tonight's ceremony apparently has a section praising the NHS as part of a thing showing the best of Britain.

Mitt'll end up walking out or something.

See this is the socialist attitude that we're dealing with in the next election.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2012, 02:46:49 PM »


Ha! Hysterical coming from the guy with a PIC of Millibrand and Hollande sauce in his sig line.

Miliband and Hollande don't make habits of insulting their hosts. In most premodern societies, Romney's behavior in Britain would have gotten him expelled from the country at best.

So Obama should be expelled from Pennsylvania for portraying them as people who cling to their guns and their bibles? Whether or not it's true, he said it in a negative way.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2012, 11:06:01 PM »

I agree Senator Shane. Who is actually going to base their vote on how Romney answered questions at the Olympics in Britain? This is nothing but fire for the far left.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2012, 12:01:08 AM »

I agree Senator Shane. Who is actually going to base their vote on how Romney answered questions at the Olympics in Britain? This is nothing but fire for the far left.

Um, no. This is a comedy gold mine for Saturday late-night TV and, while it may not sway votes, it's going to make Romney look even more ridiculous, contrived, and idiotic...as if that were possible...

Right like I said fuel fire for the far left.
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2012, 12:12:48 AM »

Agree with Mondale84 on this one. Romney has had a millionthousand small gaffes that "won't sway voters." Except when you have a millionthousand of them, they actually do start to add up.

Unless, of course, Romney makes himself look like an unapologetic truth-teller.

An unapologetic truth-teller would follow his father's example and release twelve years worth of tax records.  So while Romney may avoid taking damage from these microgaffes, he won't be able to make lemonade out of these lemons.

At least 30% of this country is far left. As far as his tax records what does anyone care? Are you suggesting without basis for your claim that he cheated on his taxes? Anyone can say that about anyone. I can demand my neighbor release his tax records so I know he's paying his fair share for the lawn service. Yes I know my neighbor isn't running for president but what's the point of releasing your tax records when you're a wealthy Republican? I mean really, the media is just going to smother you with attacks of being so wealthy that you're out of touch with the average voter. It's been done since the 30's. Do you really want to know what Romney paid in the last 12 years or do you just want to make a political point? I don't think his father would be happy either to know that the left in this country is using the Romney family to divide this great nation. As for making lemonade out of lemons, do what you want but if the left had their way, your lemonade stand would be confiscated by police for not filing the proper tax forms.
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2012, 12:35:23 AM »


The Obama campaign is probably dying laughing that the Romney campaign decides to insult a mayor of a foreign city on its Olympics opening day.

He must think he's won the election because Romney insulted a foreign mayor. After all this is a world election. How many electoral votes is Britain worth again? Oh that's right I'm no fun. Am I banned from your talking points.
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2012, 01:05:29 AM »

Agree with Mondale84 on this one. Romney has had a millionthousand small gaffes that "won't sway voters." Except when you have a millionthousand of them, they actually do start to add up.

Unless, of course, Romney makes himself look like an unapologetic truth-teller.

An unapologetic truth-teller would follow his father's example and release twelve years worth of tax records.  So while Romney may avoid taking damage from these microgaffes, he won't be able to make lemonade out of these lemons.

At least 30% of this country is far left. As far as his tax records what does anyone care? Are you suggesting without basis for your claim that he cheated on his taxes? Anyone can say that about anyone. I can demand my neighbor release his tax records so I know he's paying his fair share for the lawn service. Yes I know my neighbor isn't running for president but what's the point of releasing your tax records when you're a wealthy Republican? I mean really, the media is just going to smother you with attacks of being so wealthy that you're out of touch with the average voter. It's been done since the 30's. Do you really want to know what Romney paid in the last 12 years or do you just want to make a political point? I don't think his father would be happy either to know that the left in this country is using the Romney family to divide this great nation. As for making lemonade out of lemons, do what you want but if the left had their way, your lemonade stand would be confiscated by police for not filing the proper tax forms.

Where did I say he cheated?  There probably are a few minor things that are potentially embarrassing, but I would be surprised if he cheated on his taxes

Besides, you need to calm down and stop embarrassing yourself by making up strawman arguments and putting them in other people's mouths.  If you'd been around more than a few days you'd realize I'm no Obama supporter.  I'm an independent who is disappointed in both parties, tho the Republicans have been doing their best this campaign season to be more disappointing, which is why my comments of late have been more anti-Republican than anti-Democrat of late.  They've been giving me more material to work with, especially this week.

You never did say he cheated. So what's the point of pressuring Romney for his tax records? Simpley for the sake of tradition? What are you getting at by forcing his tax records? I'm not putting any arguments in anyone's mouth but am wondering why there is an obsession with Romney's tax returns. It doesn't matter to me who you support.
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« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2012, 01:24:37 AM »

Sigh.  At this point Romney probably won't gain (or lose) anything by releasing additional tax-records.  He probably could have avoid all this by releasing a few extra years back in 2011 before they predictably became an issue, but its too late now.

Romney's central problem on both the tax return issue and with Bain is that he comes across as fearful and defensive on these trivial points.  He acts as if he is ashamed of the money he has made and how he made it.

Something about Hunstman just screams "Whoville" though.

Mainly that when you ask most people about Huntsman they say "Who?"

I don't quite see it that way but I'll agree to disagree. I don't know a single voter who will change their vote because Romney didn't release more tax returns.
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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2012, 02:04:42 AM »

Sigh.  At this point Romney probably won't gain (or lose) anything by releasing additional tax-records.  He probably could have avoid all this by releasing a few extra years back in 2011 before they predictably became an issue, but its too late now.

Romney's central problem on both the tax return issue and with Bain is that he comes across as fearful and defensive on these trivial points.  He acts as if he is ashamed of the money he has made and how he made it.

Something about Hunstman just screams "Whoville" though.

Mainly that when you ask most people about Huntsman they say "Who?"

I don't quite see it that way but I'll agree to disagree. I don't know a single voter who will change their vote because Romney didn't release more tax returns.

Don't sweat it Derek.

Huh?
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