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solarstorm
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« on: July 29, 2012, 06:42:12 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 06:48:17 PM »

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ie=UTF-8#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=define%20colorado&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=cda1f62fcb8b192d&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=1680&bih=807

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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2012, 07:14:15 PM »

That's not how I say that.  The speaker really elevates the "ah" sound...or maybe he just places way more emphasis on it.  I saw much more...fluently?  Rollingly?  Not sure how to describe the difference.
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2012, 07:33:12 PM »

Kol-Oh-Rar-Doe.

That probably doesn't help one bit, and I guess you're not seeking a Britons pronunciation, so, yeah.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2012, 07:53:54 PM »

The second one. The first sounds odd, and the third is so wrong as to be unintelligible.
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« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2012, 07:54:19 PM »

I don't know what all those symbols in the poll mean but I pronounce, "Colorado," as call-owe-raw-doe with the first syllable stressed most, and the third stressed more than the second or fourth... for whatever that is worth.
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« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2012, 08:22:59 PM »

I've always pronounced it the second way, although I've also heard people pronounce it the first way. But I've never heard anybody pronounce it the third way...
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« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2012, 08:29:13 PM »

I pronounce it Call-er-ah-doe
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« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2012, 08:30:28 PM »

That's not how I say that.  The speaker really elevates the "ah" sound...or maybe he just places way more emphasis on it.  I saw much more...fluently?  Rollingly?  Not sure how to describe the difference.

Well, that's would be the Spanish way to say it, the tonical accent being on next-to-last sound when not specified. That would be the original way of saying it and the textbook way, but it may have mutated since then with use by Americans.
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« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2012, 09:02:27 PM »

It'll be either the first or the second depending on the dialect, never the third.
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« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2012, 09:56:59 PM »

Kah-lerr-ah-doh
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« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2012, 10:08:05 PM »

That's not how I say that.  The speaker really elevates the "ah" sound...or maybe he just places way more emphasis on it.  I saw much more...fluently?  Rollingly?  Not sure how to describe the difference.

Well, that's would be the Spanish way to say it, the tonical accent being on next-to-last sound when not specified. That would be the original way of saying it and the textbook way, but it may have mutated since then with use by Americans.
That makes sense.  I've been working on my Spanish accent lately.  I was always able to put on a good accent when saying isolated phrases, but I realized this past month that I can't spontaneously speak a string of sentences and maintain an intelligible intonation.  It's easy for a native English speaker to trip on his tongue speaking Spanish.
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« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2012, 10:30:54 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2012, 10:33:39 PM by Chemistry & Sleep Deprivation »

That's not how I say that.  The speaker really elevates the "ah" sound...or maybe he just places way more emphasis on it.  I saw much more...fluently?  Rollingly?  Not sure how to describe the difference.

Well, that's would be the Spanish way to say it, the tonical accent being on next-to-last sound when not specified. That would be the original way of saying it and the textbook way, but it may have mutated since then with use by Americans.
That makes sense.  I've been working on my Spanish accent lately.  I was always able to put on a good accent when saying isolated phrases, but I realized this past month that I can't spontaneously speak a string of sentences and maintain an intelligible intonation.  It's easy for a native English speaker to trip on his tongue speaking Spanish.

Spanish is complicated to pronounce because the tonical accent moves all the time, depending of if the word ends with a vowel or a consonant (and of the accent, like the word "inglés"), if I remember well. At least, in French, the tonical accent is always in the same place (and is then only relevent to foreigners, because the French people never notice that, being used to pronounce all words the same way.)
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« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2012, 10:34:46 PM »

I don't know what those symbols mean, but I pronounce it like in 'raw'.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2012, 12:03:31 AM »

Since Xahar didn't explain it, the poll choices are different vowel sounds using IPA notation.

The second option- the open back vowel - is the standard way to pronounce it. Nathan says the first option exists in some accents, but it would be an exaggerated Southern one. In that case, the first vowel will also be raised and nasalized.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2012, 12:13:21 AM »

Like the musical word "ra".
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2012, 12:26:50 AM »

Yeah, like the Egyptian sun god Ra.

I was talking to a friend who moved here from Colorado about the frequent faux pas among non-Nevadans to pronounce the first 'a' in Nevada like in 'pasta', instead of like in 'fan'.  He pointed out that the reverse is true for Colorado, both in the way the 'a' is pronounced, and also that it's a habit among rural hicks from within Colorado rather than people from outside the state.
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2012, 01:22:40 AM »


It also makes historical sense, since it is Colorado is a Spanish word and than their "a" are always pronounced as "ra".
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2012, 01:24:26 AM »

Incorrectly pronouncing Nevada likes that just strikes me as a standard rural/southern dialect thing.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2012, 01:34:14 AM »


That is a weird pronunciation.

I pronounce it more of the a in raw Colo(raw/ra)do
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« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2012, 02:51:18 PM »

Call-oh-rah-doh.
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« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2012, 03:58:48 PM »

ɑː seems to be the correct answer.
Does that mean Wikipedia got it wrong?
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2012, 12:12:32 AM »

Kollo-ruh-doh
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2012, 12:17:56 AM »

Kah-loe-rah-doe... but I usually say the "loe" as a "luh" and the "doe" as a "dah"
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2012, 02:18:01 AM »

Coll-or-aahh-do, but I also say Con-ettie-cut, so don't trust me.
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