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« on: July 29, 2012, 07:02:34 PM »
« edited: August 09, 2012, 06:06:01 PM by Assemblyman & Queen Mum Inks.LWC »

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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2012, 09:07:08 PM »

Also kind of on the fence about this one...
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 12:33:57 PM »

For future references:

This is the Amendment to Article 1 of the Mideast Constuition.


I think bringing in a Lt Governor may promote competition and activity that's why I'm sponsoring this legislation.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 05:56:39 PM »

For future references:

This is the Amendment to Article 1 of the Mideast Constuition.


I think bringing in a Lt Governor may promote competition and activity that's why I'm sponsoring this legislation.

You have Articles I - IV listed.  I'd suggest you condense this down to exactly what you want to have edited.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2012, 03:52:42 PM »

Inks: This is the reviving of a defeated amendment from last session. All the alterations are relevant and it would be wrong to condense.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2012, 03:55:20 PM »

For future references:

This is the Amendment to Article 1 of the Mideast Constuition.


I think bringing in a Lt Governor may promote competition and activity that's why I'm sponsoring this legislation.

You have Articles I - IV listed.  I'd suggest you condense this down to exactly what you want to have edited.
Amendments were made to all those articles. Looking back, the title of the last debate thread was inaccurate, as it amends more than just Article I.

I'd suggest changing the name to something easy, such as "Reestablishing the Lieutenant Governor Amendment".
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 04:13:43 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2012, 05:14:45 PM »

My suggestion to make this more readable is to strikethrough what language you want removed from the current wording and bold what you want added.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2012, 10:12:16 PM »

I am opposed to this since the Lt. Governor position as defined by this amendment is simply an extra position and a placeholder that the Speaker of the House already fills. I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of a Lt. Governor, but the office needs to mean something. Just having an office isn't useful, that was why it was banned in the first place.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2012, 01:00:43 AM »

I am opposed to this since the Lt. Governor position as defined by this amendment is simply an extra position and a placeholder that the Speaker of the House already fills. I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of a Lt. Governor, but the office needs to mean something. Just having an office isn't useful, that was why it was banned in the first place.
FTR, no extra position is created with this amendment.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2012, 06:04:45 PM »

I am opposed to this since the Lt. Governor position as defined by this amendment is simply an extra position and a placeholder that the Speaker of the House already fills. I'm not entirely opposed to the idea of a Lt. Governor, but the office needs to mean something. Just having an office isn't useful, that was why it was banned in the first place.
FTR, no extra position is created with this amendment.

What exactly is the point of creating a Lt. Governor who's Speaker of the Assembly?
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2012, 07:19:44 PM »

What exactly is the point of creating a Lt. Governor who's Speaker of the Assembly?

^ This. It seems rather useless.
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2012, 02:01:50 PM »

Again, I can see both sides, but maybe some specific positions could be created to separate the roles of the Assembly Speaker and the Lieutenant Governor.  Why not keep the Speaker position the way it is and establish some separate role for the LG?
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2012, 02:05:21 PM »

Again, I can see both sides, but maybe some specific positions could be created to separate the roles of the Assembly Speaker and the Lieutenant Governor.  Why not keep the Speaker position the way it is and establish some separate role for the LG?

This is precisely my opinion. If we move forward and create a Lt. Gov. office, it should be a separate office. However, we don't need a Lt. Governor who essentially does the same as the Speaker.
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2012, 02:38:43 PM »

We don't need to create powerless position.
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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2012, 10:23:16 PM »

I really would've liked to have seen this broken down to show exacly what was changed from the current language, but debate has died down, so I'm bringing it to a vote.

Seeing no further debate, the amendment is brought to a vote.  Members will vote AYE, NAY, or ABSTAIN.  This will be a 48-hour vote.
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 10:23:50 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2012, 10:51:52 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2012, 10:52:10 AM »
« Edited: August 07, 2012, 07:18:51 PM by Bisexual Libertarian Redneck Repellent »

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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2012, 01:01:21 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2012, 02:17:30 PM »

AYE
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« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2012, 06:05:43 PM »

Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 4, and the NAYs are 1.  The AYEs have it and the amendment is passed.  The amendment is now passed onto the people for a vote.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2012, 02:47:26 AM »

For the record, a public vote on the amendment will start next Thursday.
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