SENATE BILL: Impeachment Clarification Amendment (Sent to the Regions)
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« on: July 30, 2012, 10:40:27 AM »
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2012, 10:42:46 AM »
It is a rather minimal change to be sure, but "shall" is much more powerfull word then "will" in legal terms.


Also, we can determine if we want to make any other changes or add requirements to prevent a future communications breakdown and to limit the need to proceed to trial like proceedings in the Senate, simply because a Senate introduces articles on a lone wolf like mission.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2012, 01:36:58 PM »
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2012, 01:55:58 PM »
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2012, 11:34:25 PM »
I actually think its a great idea to enshrine these Committees.  There's no good argument for them not to become a permanent part of our culture.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2012, 11:43:02 PM »
I honestly don't see what difference it would make...
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2012, 12:27:57 PM »
I don't really see a difference either..
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2012, 11:55:06 AM »
It concerns me because the committees are a creation of a Senate Resolution and that gives the Senate a lot of flexibility to alter or change it as necessary, something which is especially important in period when we are just starting with these. Putting in the Constitution would remove that flexibility.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 12:58:59 PM »
Does the amendment sponsor disagree with my reasoning on this?


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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2012, 01:01:16 PM »
The Judiciary Committee already has the task of conducting impeachment proceedings.  Enshrining this in the Constitution only underlines its authority to do that.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2012, 01:24:30 PM »
Well it doesn't matter if we were to come to an agreement because I am not the one who entered objection. Tongue


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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2012, 01:27:42 PM »
Aye.
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2012, 01:33:26 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2012, 01:54:09 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2012, 05:39:52 PM »
Bumping for votes.
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« Reply #15 on: August 03, 2012, 08:26:48 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2012, 11:49:20 PM »
I fear that the defeat of this amendment will possibly jeopardize possible impeachment procedures.

I repeat: the Judiciary Committee is already designated the task of hearing impeachment proceedings.  My amendment simply outlines the procedure of how they will be conducted.
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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2012, 09:56:23 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2012, 03:21:46 PM »
WTF Senators?!!! Angry
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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2012, 04:49:07 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2012, 09:53:30 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2012, 09:31:30 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2012, 03:53:52 PM »
Vote on passage of Amendment 50:20 by Scott:

Aye (6): AndrewPA, Ben, NC Yankee, sbane, Scott and TJ in Cleve
Nay (2): Redalgo and Seatown
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Didn't Vote (2): Clarence and Worms - Sounds like a 60's band. Tongue

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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2012, 06:57:13 PM »
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Didn't Vote (2): Clarence and Worms - Sounds like a 60's band. Tongue

Clarence probably saw them live Tongue
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« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2012, 06:54:19 PM »
Shall we move to a final vote?
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