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H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
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« on: September 06, 2012, 04:23:16 PM »

Northeast Online Gambling Freedom Act

Under this act all online gambling would be legal, with 5% of winnings being required to be donated to a charity of the winner's choice.

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Jersey, you have 24 hours to advocate for this bill. Debate time will last 72 hours total.
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« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2012, 05:22:31 PM »

Whoops, forgot one thing:

Amendment: All earnings from online gambling will also be taxed pursuant to other gambling laws.  The aforementioned 5% to charity will be from the remaining winnings after all prior deductions.

Anyway, this act is to allow the underground gambling community to be regulated by the government, and to allow people to win money while ensuring that the regional government gets a cut.  I urge that in the name of personal liberty and fiscal responsibility, the legislature pass this bill.
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2012, 06:49:50 PM »
« Edited: September 06, 2012, 06:51:37 PM by Northeast Representative Goldwater »

Why are 5% of the winnings required to be donated to charity? Dose offline gambling have the same regulation?
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2012, 09:18:45 AM »

I see no reason to treat online gambling any differently from online gambling, so I can't support this act at the moment. Perhaps if this charity tax applied to all gambling and winners had to chose from a set list of charities, also there would have to be some threshold, under which no charge was levied.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2012, 12:18:05 PM »

I believe online gambling is already legal, so I don't think I'll support the bill.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2012, 04:51:07 PM »

Is online gambling already legal?  I don't think it is under the previous series of acts the governor signed.  The "tax" on winnings to charity is really more of ensuring that some of the money ends up in the right hands, rather than going to the government.  I was going to use that as a way to encourage the reduction of taxes on winnings, equivalent to 5% of winnings.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2012, 05:37:21 PM »

Is online gambling already legal?  I don't think it is under the previous series of acts the governor signed.  The "tax" on winnings to charity is really more of ensuring that some of the money ends up in the right hands, rather than going to the government.  I was going to use that as a way to encourage the reduction of taxes on winnings, equivalent to 5% of winnings.

I like the idea behind that, but I can only support it if it's also applied to offline gambling.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2012, 06:06:47 PM »

The "tax" on winnings to charity is really more of ensuring that some of the money ends up in the right hands, rather than going to the government.

Well, now you've awakened Leftist Hulk, who sleeps within me and comes out whenever I hear a Whig talking point.

How do you know that a) these charities won't  sh**t up and b) the government will? What if that charity is a branch of the KKK or Nazis?
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2012, 06:27:54 PM »

The "tax" on winnings to charity is really more of ensuring that some of the money ends up in the right hands, rather than going to the government.

Well, now you've awakened Leftist Hulk, who sleeps within me and comes out whenever I hear a Whig talking point.

How do you know that a) these charities won't  sh**t up and b) the government will? What if that charity is a branch of the KKK or Nazis?

Then that's the choice of the individual.  Would I ever condone these charities?  Not unless they were handing out MRIs to uninsured kindergarteners or something, and they werent acting on their views.  But I like to see where my tax money goes, and I'm pretty sure the people of the NE agree.  I also believe that the people of the Northeast agree that the government NEVER does a better job at humanitarian efforts than private charities.  So I know that the charities sh**ting up is certainly a risk, as is the government sh***ing up.  But I trust the people to choose wisely.  And this way the money goes directly to the organizations that need them most, rather than government priorities.  And finally, I'm pretty sure every "
far-right group in America is for-profit Wink.  So yeah the charities cannot be for-profit entities, and the winnings must go to a non-profit.  Anyway....

I'm submitting an amendment to make the charitable winnings apply to all forms of gambling, and another to reduce the tax on winnings by 5%.
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2012, 08:25:14 PM »
« Edited: September 08, 2012, 08:28:38 PM by Northeast Representative Goldwater »

I don't think that counts as proposing an amendment, you need to actually word the amendment in a way that can be added to the final text of the bill.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2012, 09:10:06 PM »

Jerseyrules , since online gambling is apparently already legal, do you mind if I reword & repurpose this bill?


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« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2012, 10:26:58 AM »

How much money would be lost by dropping the gambling tax by 5%?
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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2012, 04:55:37 AM »

Retroactively extending debate time by 24 hours.

Jersey, is Goldwater's amendment friendly?
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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2012, 03:30:35 PM »

GODDAMMIT JERSEY! We're approaching the legal limit of debate time!
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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2012, 05:00:04 PM »

I believe we have surpassed the legal maximum amount of debate time (120 hours) and shall now proceed to a vote.

Representatives will now vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain on the final text.

Northeast Online Gambling Freedom Act

Under this act all online gambling would be legal, with 5% of winnings being required to be donated to a charity of the winner's choice.

Nay.
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« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2012, 05:53:13 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2012, 06:43:44 PM »

Nay
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2012, 10:08:52 AM »

Nay
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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2012, 06:18:48 PM »

With zero ayes, four nays, and one member not voting, the bill fails 0-4.
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