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« on: September 30, 2012, 08:48:23 PM »

If capital punishment is abolished, then for crimes of murder, what is the trade off?
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 08:49:48 PM »

Spanking.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 08:52:59 PM »

life imprisonment
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 09:02:13 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 09:04:06 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.

I thought the alternative punishment was rather obvious...
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 09:04:21 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.



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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 09:57:08 PM »

Well, since all of you would rather give flippant answers to a serious question, I can only conclude none of you know the answer.
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 10:00:25 PM »

Well, since all of you would rather give flippant answers to a serious question, I can only conclude none of you know the answer.

There's actually no single answer to your question because the court system decides penalties.  The Constitutional amendment merely revokes capital punishment as an option, which consequentially leaves life imprisonment as the most likely alternative to would-be death penalty sentences.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 10:31:01 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.



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Can't trust anyone I see.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 10:45:24 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.

I thought the alternative punishment was rather obvious...

Not as obvious as one might think.

There would be a difference in prison sentences for premeditated murder as opposed to non premeditated murder for example.

In some jurisdictions life in prison is 25 years with the possibility of parole, then we get into the issue of under which conditions parole is allowed, some jurisdictions life in prison is 25 years with no possibility of parole, in some jurisdictions life in prison is a term until you die in prison.  
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 10:49:44 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.

I thought the alternative punishment was rather obvious...

Not as obvious as one might think.

There would be a difference in prison sentences for premeditated murder as opposed to non premeditated murder for example.

In some jurisdictions life in prison is 25 years with the possibility of parole, then we get into the issue of under which conditions parole is allowed, some jurisdictions life in prison is 25 years with no possibility of parole, in some jurisdictions life in prison is a term until you die in prison.  

Yes, and those prison sentences will remain legal.  I think the only people that will be significantly affected by this amendment are prisoners on death row, whom I suspect will have their sentences changed by the courts.
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 11:00:30 PM »

Thank you for casting your vote in support of this amendment, Winfield.

You're welcome.

I have no objection to the abolishment of capital punishment providing there is a reasonable trade off in place.  

That is why I asked this very serious question, only to be met with the three amigos giving very flippant answers, with one of them getting more serious later on after my comments.
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 11:02:16 PM »

     Is there even any region left with the death penalty? I voted against the amendment largely because I saw it as a waste of space.
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« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 03:20:56 AM »

That's not to say spankings aren't a common fate for folks at many prisons, of course.
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 06:21:21 PM »

That's not to say spankings aren't a common fate for folks at many prisons, of course.

Are you really that far out of touch with how the prison system operates?
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« Reply #15 on: October 01, 2012, 07:21:51 PM »

That's not to say spankings aren't a common fate for folks at many prisons, of course.

Are you really that far out of touch with how the prison system operates?

You haven't seen the things that I've seen.
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« Reply #16 on: October 01, 2012, 07:54:03 PM »


Thank you.

Two joke replies, one serious reply.

I am asking a serious question.  I do not expect to be answered with flippant responses.

I thought the alternative punishment was rather obvious...

Not as obvious as one might think.

There would be a difference in prison sentences for premeditated murder as opposed to non premeditated murder for example.

In some jurisdictions life in prison is 25 years with the possibility of parole, then we get into the issue of under which conditions parole is allowed, some jurisdictions life in prison is 25 years with no possibility of parole, in some jurisdictions life in prison is a term until you die in prison.  

This would be up to the regions to decide as it is currently. According to federal statute already in place death sentences received prior to 2004 when it was passed would be commuted to life imprisonment. The amendment does not alter this statute and any subsequent sentencing would be at the discretion of regional law.
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