Whig Party Convention, Bird-in-Hand, PA

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Also, is the Whig Liberty Caucus affiliated to the 'official' Whig party? It's acting as a party within a party.

It purports to be. I don't really have a problem with it, but it might be good to clarify the powers of subsidiary caucuses in our rules. Their ability to endorse a candidate isn't really official (a caucus endorsement would not appear on a presidential ballot), so I'd look into specifying that our caucuses would be able to make recommendations for endorsements. Kind of like how senate committees recommend whether or not legislation should be passed.

[Supersonic]

Also, is the Whig Liberty Caucus affiliated to the 'official' Whig party? It's acting as a party within a party.

It purports to be. I don't really have a problem with it, but it might be good to clarify the powers of subsidiary caucuses in our rules. Their ability to endorse a candidate isn't really official (a caucus endorsement would not appear on a presidential ballot), so I'd look into specifying that our caucuses would be able to make recommendations for endorsements. Kind of like how senate committees recommend whether or not legislation should be passed.

Hmm. Yes, some guidelines do need to be laid down because at the moment the Whig Liberty Caucus might as well be its own political party, not to mention they are most likely to endorse a non-Whig in the upcoming primary.

I'm also slightly worried that the Caucus is getting more attention that the actual base party. I'd like to see what Clarence thinks of this matter.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

For the record, I support SPC's candidacy as well.

While Gass means well to ask us to back his candidacy, it's the real life equivalent of Bernie Sanders asking for a Republican endorsement. Not 'appnin.

I totally understand this view. My goal for asking was primarily to introduce myself to your party members, make it known that I will be willing to work across the aisle and ask for at least some consideration.

Thank you- I respect this and I believe all Whigs do... we look forward to working with you. Also, we will not simply reject your request for consideration. We will have an endorsement vote between you and SPC.

[CLARENCE 2015!]

Also, is the Whig Liberty Caucus affiliated to the 'official' Whig party? It's acting as a party within a party.

It purports to be. I don't really have a problem with it, but it might be good to clarify the powers of subsidiary caucuses in our rules. Their ability to endorse a candidate isn't really official (a caucus endorsement would not appear on a presidential ballot), so I'd look into specifying that our caucuses would be able to make recommendations for endorsements. Kind of like how senate committees recommend whether or not legislation should be passed.

Hmm. Yes, some guidelines do need to be laid down because at the moment the Whig Liberty Caucus might as well be its own political party, not to mention they are most likely to endorse a non-Whig in the upcoming primary.

I'm also slightly worried that the Caucus is getting more attention that the actual base party. I'd like to see what Clarence thinks of this matter.

I don't have any problem with this... if the Caucus is getting more attention then our party, that is on us to fix! I've been around here for a while now and the lesson others have taught me is that the right needs to be united... that includes hawks like myself and the libertarians. I would rather have an active libertarian caucus then a separate party- right now we are under the same big tent but the caucus gives them a chance to express their views... I am ok with this

If you both want to clarify caucus rules- that is fine by me. But let's appreciate the caucus for what it is- a group WITHIN our party of highly motivated people who we will unite with in a general election despite disagreements before

I'm all for it

[Supersonic]

Right. I'll defer on the issue of Caucus rules until the next party Convention, if only because our current Convention will be ending soon.

On that issue, I was thinking that we should hold a vote as to where our next gathering shall be held. Bird-in-Hand is rather, ahem, low-key, for a major political party.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

My suggestions are as follows:

Chugwater, Wyoming
Big Chimney, West Virginia
Humptulip, Washington
Canadian, Texas
Trophy Club, Texas
Slaughterville, Oklahoma
Three Legs Town, Ohio
Little Switzerland, North Carolina
Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina
Ronkonkoma, New York
Elephant Butte, New Mexico
Weeping Water, Nebraska
Hungry Horse, Montana
Pine Stump Junction, Michigan
Rabbit Hash, Kentucky
Yellow Jacket, Colorado
Rough and Ready, California
Greasy Corner, Arkansas

[TJ in Oregon]

Also, is the Whig Liberty Caucus affiliated to the 'official' Whig party? It's acting as a party within a party.

It purports to be. I don't really have a problem with it, but it might be good to clarify the powers of subsidiary caucuses in our rules. Their ability to endorse a candidate isn't really official (a caucus endorsement would not appear on a presidential ballot), so I'd look into specifying that our caucuses would be able to make recommendations for endorsements. Kind of like how senate committees recommend whether or not legislation should be passed.

Hmm. Yes, some guidelines do need to be laid down because at the moment the Whig Liberty Caucus might as well be its own political party, not to mention they are most likely to endorse a non-Whig in the upcoming primary.

I'm also slightly worried that the Caucus is getting more attention that the actual base party. I'd like to see what Clarence thinks of this matter.

I agree... somewhat. Having a separate Liberty Caucus that does not in general endorse Whig candidates could be problematic. However, in this case, we arranged to have a primary with the MCPR and IB, so we shouldn't then try to rig the primary so the Whig candidate wins automatically because there are more members in the Whigs than IB or MCPR. That would make it sort of difficult to work with those other parties. By agreeeing to a 3-way primary, we have defacto agreed already that a candidate from the IB or MCPR would in general be acceptable to us. If the Liberty Caucus begins endorsing non-Whigs over Whigs in a general election, then yes there would be an issue.

[Supersonic]

My suggestions are as follows:

Chugwater, Wyoming
Big Chimney, West Virginia
Humptulip, Washington
Canadian, Texas
Trophy Club, Texas
Slaughterville, Oklahoma
Three Legs Town, Ohio
Little Switzerland, North Carolina
Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina
Ronkonkoma, New York
Elephant Butte, New Mexico
Weeping Water, Nebraska
Hungry Horse, Montana
Pine Stump Junction, Michigan
Rabbit Hash, Kentucky
Yellow Jacket, Colorado
Rough and Ready, California
Greasy Corner, Arkansas

lol Hags.

Also, is the Whig Liberty Caucus affiliated to the 'official' Whig party? It's acting as a party within a party.

It purports to be. I don't really have a problem with it, but it might be good to clarify the powers of subsidiary caucuses in our rules. Their ability to endorse a candidate isn't really official (a caucus endorsement would not appear on a presidential ballot), so I'd look into specifying that our caucuses would be able to make recommendations for endorsements. Kind of like how senate committees recommend whether or not legislation should be passed.

Hmm. Yes, some guidelines do need to be laid down because at the moment the Whig Liberty Caucus might as well be its own political party, not to mention they are most likely to endorse a non-Whig in the upcoming primary.

I'm also slightly worried that the Caucus is getting more attention that the actual base party. I'd like to see what Clarence thinks of this matter.

I agree... somewhat. Having a separate Liberty Caucus that does not in general endorse Whig candidates could be problematic. However, in this case, we arranged to have a primary with the MCPR and IB, so we shouldn't then try to rig the primary so the Whig candidate wins automatically because there are more members in the Whigs than IB or MCPR. That would make it sort of difficult to work with those other parties. By agreeeing to a 3-way primary, we have defacto agreed already that a candidate from the IB or MCPR would in general be acceptable to us. If the Liberty Caucus begins endorsing non-Whigs over Whigs in a general election, then yes there would be an issue.

Yes, I think for the time being we should see how everything works out. If however we run into a scenario whereby non-Whigs were being given preferential treatment over our own party's endorsed candidates, post primaries, then we may need to establish guidelines regulating such behaviour. Although, hopefully, if the Caucus system is not misused, this won't be necessary.

[Grumpier Than Thou]

My suggestions are as follows:

Chugwater, Wyoming

x 20RP12

[TJ in Oregon]

I've always wanted to have a convention in Truth or Consequences, NM.

[ZuWo]

Look at the list and then at the shape of my avatar and you will see that my choice is obvious.

[Pingvin]

Slaughterville, Oklahoma
xPingvin
More families should attend our conventions. I propose using this song for promoting it on next convention because it fits town name.

[Supersonic]

It has been 48 hours since the Chair allowed non-Whig Mideast Assembly candidates to come forth for endorsements. SPC and Gass3268 have specifically asked for an endorsement, ProgressiveRealist has not, and therefore won't be on the endorsement ballot.

Also, I've taken the liberty to include a ballot allowing Whig members to choose the next location for our Party Convention. I've added all the current proposed locations and a write-in option.

As usual, 24 hours of voting unless the Chair deems otherwise.

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

[] SPC
[] Gass3268

Whig Party City Conference Ballot

[] Chugwater, Wyoming
[] Big Chimney, West Virginia
[] Humptulip, Washington
[] Canadian, Texas
[] Trophy Club, Texas
[] Slaughterville, Oklahoma
[] Three Legs Town, Ohio
[] Little Switzerland, North Carolina
[] Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina
[] Ronkonkoma, New York
[] Elephant Butte, New Mexico
[] Weeping Water, Nebraska
[] Hungry Horse, Montana
[] Pine Stump Junction, Michigan
[] Rabbit Hash, Kentucky
[] Yellow Jacket, Colorado
[] Rough and Ready, California
[] Greasy Corner, Arkansas
[] Truth, New Mexico
[] Consequences, New Mexico
[] Columbia, South Carolina
Write-in: ___________

[Grumpier Than Thou]

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

[1] SPC
[2] Gass3268

Whig Party City Conference Ballot

[1] Chugwater, Wyoming
[2] Big Chimney, West Virginia
[3] Humptulip, Washington
[4] Three Legs Town, Ohio
[5] Little Switzerland, North Carolina
[6] Truth Or Consequences, New Mexico
[7] Write-in: Butte, Montana

[ZuWo]

Mideast Assembly:

1. SPC
2. Gass

Conference Ballot:

1. Little Switzerland, North Carolina

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

[1] SPC

Whig Party City Conference Ballot

[1] Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina
[2] Ronkonkoma, New York
[3] Chugwater, Wyoming
[4] Big Chimney, West Virginia
[5] Hungry Horse, Montana
[6] Trophy Club, Texas
[7] Slaughterville, Oklahoma
[8] Elephant Butte, New Mexico

[HagridOfTheDeep]

Also, once this vote is done, I think we oughta discuss our opinions on the Equal Rights Amendment... and possibly come up with some strategies to block its passage.

[Supersonic]

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

[1] SPC

Whig Party City Conference Ballot

[1] Columbia, South Carolina
[2] Little Switzerland, North Carolina

[Goldwater]

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

[1] SPC

Whig Party City Conference Ballot

[1] Columbia, South Carolina
[2] Yellow Jacket, Colorado
[3] Little Switzerland, North Carolina

[tmthforu94]

I understand you won't be holding an endorsement vote in the Gubernatorial race. That's fine.

I just want to take this opportunity to let you all know, that regardless of the results, the winner of this election will be the Mideast. We have two great candidates here, and while we have ideological and game reform differences on how to move this game forward, we're both active, competent, individuals.

If I'm elected as Governor, I'm sure many of you will be disappointed that your man ZuWo didn't win. But let me assure you - under a Tmthforu94 Administration, when it comes to discussion and debate in our region, party labels are thrown out the window. I'm more than ready to work with all parties, including the Whigs, to create policies and reform that will benefit this game.

Thank you for your time,
Isaac

[Spamage]

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

Abstain

Whig Party City Conference Ballot


Write-in: Salem, Oregon

[Simfan34]

Oh dear, I've been ousted! I'd kind of like my job back...

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Mideast Endorsement:
SPC

Mideast Convention:
1: Columbia, SC
2. Truth, NM
3. Consequences, NM

[Grumpier Than Thou]

The city is actually called 'Truth or Consequences, NM' Truth and Consequences are not two separate cities

[Pingvin]

Mideast Assembly Endorsement Ballot

[1] SPC


Whig Party City Conference Ballot
[1] Slaughterville, Oklahoma