Do you think Obama believes in Socialism / Do you believe in Socialism?

[Torie]

If "socialism" these days means cross subsidies, and government regulations over this and that, about 90% of the voters believe in "socialism" to some degree.  In fact, when you get down to brass tacks, and what is in fact practicable, the political football game is mostly being played somewhere between between center field and the 40 yard line on either side. So in that sense, the question is a "fail." It illuminates very little in either the asking or the answer.

[Torie]

In sum Milhouse, spending that you don't like is "socialism," and spending that you like isn't.  It would have been helpful if you had provided us with your rather sui generis yet narcissistic definition of the word in the first instance don't you think?

[Torie]

The point is there's no need to 'name' anything as the 'problems' with that remarkable chart are obvious to anyone with three functioning brain cells and occasional access to logical thought. If you can look at it and not see the 'problems' immediately, then...

You actually understood that mess of a chart?  You clearly are a better man than I. I looked at it, and got a headache, and required "medication" myself. Nothing is so obfuscatory than this ideologically Venn diagram boxing mania. I hate it!