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minionofmidas
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« on: July 31, 2012, 03:59:42 PM »

I would like to know what "belief in Socialism" is even supposed to mean. It's not a religion or even a totalitarian ideology (though several of the sort have thrived under the umbrella name... but if any of those are what's meant, the answer is so obviously "lolno/lolno" as to... uh... I can't think of a fitting simile.)
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2012, 04:25:16 PM »

I would like to know what "belief in Socialism" is even supposed to mean. It's not a religion or even a totalitarian ideology (though several of the sort have thrived under the umbrella name... but if any of those are what's meant, the answer is so obviously "lolno/lolno" as to... uh... I can't think of a fitting simile.)

By 'believes in socialism' they mean - 'dares not to believe in neoliberal capitalism'.
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Well yeah, as that actually is a totalitarian ersatzreligion.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2012, 03:56:57 AM »

Any government spending on services is socialism, period.
What? Ridiculous.

For instance, Universal Health Care is labeled as a socialist policy by both Liberals who strongly believe in it, and by conservatives who want it eliminated. 
Not if it's set up to cuddle and benefit private "ensurers". If you must try and find an "ideology" that fits in (something I'd advise against) fascism would be your least ridiculous bet.
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minionofmidas
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 06:48:30 AM »

How anyone could take a chart like that even half seriously is beyond me.

I think you just don't like charts
No one who likes to actually understand what different ideologies are all about is going to have a modicum of respect for anybody who thinks that charts might be helpful in the endeavour.
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