Reid: Bain Investor Told Me That Mitt Romney 'Didn't Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years'

[Progressive Realist]

Interesting how every Democrat here will acknowledge that Reid is probably at least incorrect, but no Republican will acknowledge that something at least seems slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to do something every presidential candidate has automatically done for 50+ years.

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

You seriously are going Birther on us?

[Lieutenant Governor Clinton1996]

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

But every Presidential candidate has released more than 2 years of returns. And even those two years are incomplete. McCain released 2 years during his campaign, but he had release returns every time he ran for re-election to the senate since 1986. Kerry did the same thing with his returns. And these were two extremely wealthy men.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

He did, but it wasn't enough for Trump and all you crazy people. I don't remember anyone bugging Kerry for his birth certificate or McCain. Nobody bothered Bush about his birth certificate 3 years into his presidency.

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No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

But every Presidential candidate has released more than 2 years of returns. And even those two years are incomplete. McCain released 2 years during his campaign, but he had release returns every time he ran for re-election to the senate since 1986. Kerry did the same thing with his returns. And these were two extremely wealthy men.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

He did, but it wasn't enough for Trump and all you crazy people. I don't remember anyone bugging Kerry for his birth certificate or McCain. Nobody bothered Bush about his birth certificate 3 years into his presidency.

Ironically it's McCain and Romney's father who had the serious issues with where they were born.

I found this on Wikipedia.

ccordingly, the Supreme Court held in 1905 in Rasmussen v. United States that the full Constitution only applies for incorporated territories of the United States.[28] Until the rulings in these so-called "Insular Cases", children born of two U.S. citizens in the Canal Zone had been subject to the Naturalization Act of 1795, which granted statutory U.S. citizenship at birth. With the ruling of 1905 persons born in the Canal Zone only became U.S. nationals, not citizens.[29] This no man's land with regard to U.S. citizenship was perpetuated until Congress passed legislation in 1937, which corrected this deficiency. The law is now codified under title 8 section 1403.[30] It not only grants statutory and declaratory born citizenship to those born in the Canal Zone after February 26, 1904, with at least one U.S. citizen parent, but also did so retroactively for all children born of at least one U.S. citizen in the Canal Zone before the law's enactment.[31]

McCain was born in 1936, which means that when he was born he was not a US citizen. Sure, the following year he was retroactively given US citizenship, but it sounds like to me he was ineligible to become President.

There you have it folks. One of the major party nominees for President in 2008 was ineligible to become President because of his birthplace. The irony is incredible.

[Politico]

Interesting how every Democrat here will acknowledge that Reid is probably at least incorrect, but no Republican will acknowledge that something at least seems slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to do something every presidential candidate has automatically done for 50+ years.

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

You seriously are going Birther on us?

Absolutely not. My point is that Obama did not release his official birth certificate until 2011. Your reasoning on Romney is completely in line with the "Birther" reasoning in 2008 (i.e., "he won't release it so he must be hiding something!"). They claimed Obama was hiding something when he was not. The same applies to Romney and his tax returns. Romney has not broken the law, but he is wealthy and does not want to feed the narrative that he is "out-of-touch" wealthy. That is why they have yet to release the returns. It is nothing nefarious.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Interesting how every Democrat here will acknowledge that Reid is probably at least incorrect, but no Republican will acknowledge that something at least seems slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to do something every presidential candidate has automatically done for 50+ years.

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

You seriously are going Birther on us?

Absolutely not. My point is that Obama did not release his official birth certificate until 2011. Your reasoning on Romney is completely in line with the "Birther" reasoning in 2008 (i.e., "he won't release it so he must be hiding something!"). They claimed Obama was hiding something when he was not. The same applies to Romney and his tax returns. Romney has not broken the law, but he is wealthy and does not want to feed the narrative that he is "out-of-touch" wealthy. That is why they have yet to release the returns.

Obama released this birth certificate in June 2008. Funny how the birthers ignored the problem of McCain being born in the Canal Zone before that 1937 law.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg

[Politico]

Interesting how every Democrat here will acknowledge that Reid is probably at least incorrect, but no Republican will acknowledge that something at least seems slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to do something every presidential candidate has automatically done for 50+ years.

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

You seriously are going Birther on us?

Absolutely not. My point is that Obama did not release his official birth certificate until 2011. Your reasoning on Romney is completely in line with the "Birther" reasoning in 2008 (i.e., "he won't release it so he must be hiding something!"). They claimed Obama was hiding something when he was not. The same applies to Romney and his tax returns. Romney has not broken the law, but he is wealthy and does not want to feed the narrative that he is "out-of-touch" wealthy. That is why they have yet to release the returns.

Obama released this birth certificate in June 2008.

What was the big hoopla at the dinner before the assassination of Bin Laden? As I recall, Obama never released his official "long-form" birth certificate until 2011. I may be recalling incorrectly.

I never bought into the "Birther" arguments, but it is interesting that you have adopted the same reasoning as them with regards to Romney's tax returns. I am consistent when it comes to Romney's tax returns and Obama's "long-form" birth certificate.

[pbrower2a]

Maybe President Obama will win in 2012 because Mitt Romney failed 1040!

If he had to amend returns to recognize income hidden away in foreign accounts, then he would show that he has played in accordance with the idea that rules are for fools until one gets caught -- after getting an amnesty.

[Torie]

I do not discuss personal matters on public forums.

I have made that clear in the past.

Personal matters, public forums, not a good mix.

Well you were the guy who brought up what you think the LDS does. I was wondering what your expertise about the matter was.

[The Mikado]

Interesting how every Democrat here will acknowledge that Reid is probably at least incorrect, but no Republican will acknowledge that something at least seems slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to do something every presidential candidate has automatically done for 50+ years.

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

You seriously are going Birther on us?

Absolutely not. My point is that Obama did not release his official birth certificate until 2011. Your reasoning on Romney is completely in line with the "Birther" reasoning in 2008 (i.e., "he won't release it so he must be hiding something!"). They claimed Obama was hiding something when he was not. The same applies to Romney and his tax returns. Romney has not broken the law, but he is wealthy and does not want to feed the narrative that he is "out-of-touch" wealthy. That is why they have yet to release the returns.

Obama released this birth certificate in June 2008. Funny how the birthers ignored the problem of McCain being born in the Canal Zone before that 1937 law.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg

Except that there is no problem?  At all?  Because McCain has citizenship via jus sanguinis from birth, just like George Romney, just like every other child of American citizens born outside the United States?

You are such a total hack sometimes.

[Gravis Marketing]

Obama is now campaigning on the claim that Ryan's plan would lower Romney's tax rate even further, to something shy of 1%. Is that possible?

[greenforest32]

Obama is now campaigning on the claim that Ryan's plan would lower Romney's tax rate even further, to something shy of 1%. Is that possible?

If his plan involves eliminating taxes on capital gains (I think he wanted that just for $250k and under) then yeah.

Even back in the primary, Newt was saying under his (Newt's) tax plan (no capital gains taxes) Romney would pay virtually no federal income taxes because most of his income is classified as capital gains.

[Harry]

There is nothing in the least even slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to release these tax files.

Yes there is.  When a candidate refuses to participate in standard procedure, even when members of his own party urge him to, it is only natural to assume he must have a reason not to.

Even though you won't admit it, you agree with me on this indisputable point.

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Obama is now campaigning on the claim that Ryan's plan would lower Romney's tax rate even further, to something shy of 1%. Is that possible?

If his plan involves eliminating taxes on capital gains (I think he wanted that just for $250k and under) then yeah.

Even back in the primary, Newt was saying under his (Newt's) tax plan (no capital gains taxes) Romney would pay virtually no federal income taxes because most of his income is classified as capital gains.

I don't see anything about limiting it to $250k here.

Promotes saving by eliminating taxes on interest, capital gains, and dividends; also eliminates the death tax.

http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=8514

[greenforest32]

I don't see anything about limiting it to $250k here.

Promotes saving by eliminating taxes on interest, capital gains, and dividends; also eliminates the death tax.

http://roadmap.republicans.budget.house.gov/issues/issue/?IssueID=8514

Yeah opps, I was referring to Romney's plan: http://www.mittromney.com/issues/tax

Eliminate taxes for taxpayers with AGI below $200,000 on interest, dividends, and capital gains

Newt even attacked him for it for 'engaging in class warfare' (why only no capital gains taxes for $200k/250k and under? he asked). Wouldn't be surprised if Romney is backing the House GOP plan now though.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Interesting how every Democrat here will acknowledge that Reid is probably at least incorrect, but no Republican will acknowledge that something at least seems slightly suspicious about Romney's steadfast refusal to do something every presidential candidate has automatically done for 50+ years.

No presidential candidate has ever released 30+ years of tax returns, which is what would be necessary to cover the duration of Romney's association with Bain.

Why didn't Obama release his birth certificate in 2008?

You seriously are going Birther on us?

Absolutely not. My point is that Obama did not release his official birth certificate until 2011. Your reasoning on Romney is completely in line with the "Birther" reasoning in 2008 (i.e., "he won't release it so he must be hiding something!"). They claimed Obama was hiding something when he was not. The same applies to Romney and his tax returns. Romney has not broken the law, but he is wealthy and does not want to feed the narrative that he is "out-of-touch" wealthy. That is why they have yet to release the returns.

Obama released this birth certificate in June 2008. Funny how the birthers ignored the problem of McCain being born in the Canal Zone before that 1937 law.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/BarackObamaCertificationOfLiveBirthHawaii.jpg

Except that there is no problem?  At all?  Because McCain has citizenship via jus sanguinis from birth, just like George Romney, just like every other child of American citizens born outside the United States?

You are such a total hack sometimes.

Umm, did you read my other post? The 1937 law fixed the citizenship issue, but that still means McCain wasn't a citizen at birth.

[The Mikado]

Obama is now campaigning on the claim that Ryan's plan would lower Romney's tax rate even further, to something shy of 1%. Is that possible?

The Ryan plan would wipe out capital gains taxes almost completely.  Nearly the entirety of Romney's income is capital gains.  Romney would still be taxed on sales of his book, which is where the 1% tax he does still pay under the Ryan plan comes from.