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« Reply #450 on: October 07, 2014, 01:07:24 AM »
« edited: October 07, 2014, 01:16:14 AM by GOPLibertarian »

1960 Republican Primary:

University professor Dr. GOPLibertarian of Georgia becomes the first Southerner to run for the Republican nomination. GOPLibertarian preforms well in the Dixie states as well as South Dakota and Nebraska. However, the doctor is defeated by Senator Goldwater of Washington. Despite his loss, GOPLibertarian is selected for the Vice Presidential nomination thanks their similar viewpoints and GOPLibertarian's surprisingly well performance. This mostly reinforces the ticket, as Dr. GOPLibertarian is not admired by Southern Democrats because of his pro-Civil Rights attitude.




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« Reply #451 on: November 01, 2014, 12:55:37 AM »

Republican Primaries:



Washington Governor Goldwater
Georgia Senator Bigby
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« Reply #452 on: November 01, 2014, 07:01:53 AM »

Republican Primaries



Governor Goldwater (R-WA)
Senator RPryor (R-NJ)
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)
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« Reply #453 on: November 10, 2014, 04:40:18 PM »

Republican Primaries:


Senator Madman Motley (R-IN)
Governor Robert Pryor (R-NJ)
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« Reply #454 on: November 11, 2014, 01:02:14 AM »



Governor Brian "Madman" Motley (Peace Alliance-IN)/Senator Miles Smith (PA-LA) - 338 EVs
President Goldwater (Wartime Coalition-WA)/Vice President Mung Beans (WC-CA) - 200 EVs
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« Reply #455 on: November 26, 2014, 09:41:18 AM »

Republican Primaries/Caucuses


Gov. Goldwater (R-WA)
Gov. Oldiesfreak1854 (R-MI)
Fmr. Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)
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« Reply #456 on: November 27, 2014, 12:51:46 PM »

Republican Primary Season 2016:



Senator Bigby (R-GA)
Governor Oldiesfreak (R-MI)
Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)

After losing in Iowa and New Hampshire, Senator Bigby wins big in South Carolina and Florida. However, he falls a hundred delegates short of the minimum required to win before the convention. At the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Ohio, Governor Oldiesfreak endorses Bigby in return for becoming his Vice Presidential nominee in an alliance against Governor Mike Huckabee.
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« Reply #457 on: November 27, 2014, 06:49:22 PM »

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« Reply #458 on: December 01, 2014, 10:30:16 AM »

In an alternate universe...

The People's Congress of Workers' and Farmers' Councils of the United Socialist States of America convenes shortly after it's election in the 2016 General Election to elect a new Presidium. Unlike the Presidency of the old United States of America, the Presidium is a multi-member executive body responsible for carrying out the decisions of the People's Congress, and as such, multiple members will be elected by the various state delegations representing their constituent Workers' and Farmers' Councils.

Although a few slates are possible selections in the outset, a few rounds of balloting narrows the contest considerably between two particular slates of candidates. On the right, People's Representative blagohair represents the Coalition of Progressive Electors (CPE), a combined slate consisting of the Communist Party of the United Socialist States of America and the Progressive Party (of which he is a member). On the left is People's Representative TNF, running as the candidate of the People's Planning Coalition (PPC), a combined slate of the Socialist Workers Party (his own), the Federation of Socialist Ecologists, and the United Christian Party.

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« Reply #459 on: December 01, 2014, 01:15:09 PM »

Here's the 2020 election that alternate universe. President TNF v. the People's Candidate, Yelnoc. It's a close election; most states are within a few percentage points of each other.

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« Reply #460 on: December 01, 2014, 01:39:51 PM »

Umm. Skip
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« Reply #461 on: December 03, 2014, 07:20:07 PM »

Damn it FreedomHawk. Well, I made the map, so whatever.

1952 - A Time for Change
After nearly twenty years of Democratic control, Americans were finally ready for a change. Senator James "FreedomHawk" Nelson, a liberal Republican, sweeped the field with his broad message of freedom and hawkishness. Toward the end of his campaign, he faced a stiff challenge from Conservative California Congressman Ryan "Madman" Motley who won a last batch of primaries. Nelson, fearing a revolt if he runs with another liberal or a full on conservative, picked a moderate for his VP, Indiana Governor Timothy Bush.

On the Democratic side, the field was crowded with former non-contenders. What stood out was the campaigning techniques of conservative Governor of Oklahoma John Maxwell. Maxwell, an ardent fiscal conservative, proposed a repeal of a large portion of the new deal. In addition, he promised a complete change from the Truman years, promising to repeal the Truman doctrine and put into place a "no new wars policy". He alienated a lot of voters, but this strategy brought so many challengers that he won the divided convention handily due to his handy business connections. To make matters worse, he nominated Businessman Rodney Spiral, a former candidate for Missouri Governor, to be his Vice President. Rodney Spiral was his former campaign manager, and alienated a lot of Democrats.

Nelson was considered a shoe-in, but won an underwhelming margin after it was revealed in Early October that he had antagonized the Soviets in a private meeting with Josef Stalin after he shook a Russian Ambassador. Maxwell took full advantage of that exchange, and brought on a lot of old time, isolationist conservatives on to his ticket, picking up states that many thought he wouldn't win. Nelson, however, won the election, getting his last laugh.


Senator James "Freedom Hawk" Nelson (R-CT)/Governor Timothy Bush (R-IN) - 53.5%, 366 EV's
Governor John Maxwell (D-OK)/Businessman Rodney Spiral (D-MO) - 44.9%, 165 EVs
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« Reply #462 on: December 04, 2014, 02:32:30 AM »
« Edited: December 04, 2014, 02:53:00 AM by MormDem »

The Year is 1976 and in wake of Watergate, the populace are in desperate want for an honest candidate who can move the country forward. This is the only year in which someone like me (MormDem) or Maxwell would ever get the nod.



This is a result of a series of very heated debates and the battle ultimately becomes one of populism vs. libertarianism, however some "home-state" charisma comes into play.

Ultimately in spite of running a very Jimmy Carter like campaign, MormDem ended up losing the South entirely for the Democrats because although the party had Al Smith and JFK to clear the way for Catholics, Mormons were a very different story.

However, this instead took all the West from Maxwell. Places that would've appreciated the social liberalism on the Left Coast  were turned off by the fiscal conservatism (except for Oregon) and were okay with someone more moderate. And Utah,Idaho, and Arizona all swung the pendulum far the other way for the same reason the South was lost.

And Nevada remains the more reliable bellwether than Ohio.

Ultimately the stats are:

MormDem (D-CA): 50.1% PV, 292 EV
Maxwell (I-OK): 48.7% PV, 246 EV
Other: 1.2% PV, 0 EV



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« Reply #463 on: December 04, 2014, 09:15:02 AM »
« Edited: December 04, 2014, 09:25:27 AM by FreedomHawk »

2016: A Sudden and Dramatic Realignment

FreedomHawk (R-CT)'s economic pragmatism with a libertarian flavor proved popular nationwide. It was his stance on social issues that became the problem. His anti-religious attitude and social liberalism lost him, albeit narrowly, normal strongholds like Arkansas, Mississippi, Alabama, and even, in a shocker, Utah, where MormDem (D-CA) was able to rally enough fellows of his faith to eek out a win, though all of their Republican representatives were still re-elected. On the flip side, Hawk's social liberalism and reaching out to minorities and common workers in unions granted him the ability to flip places like Maine, New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Wisconsin, and hold on to the bluing Georgia, thus winning him the election despite his loss of regular gurantees.



Governor MormDem (D-CA): 47.67% (229 EV)
Senator FreedomHawk (R-CT): 50.14% (309 EV)
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« Reply #464 on: December 04, 2014, 10:43:39 AM »



Governor Freedom Hawk (R-CT) and Senator MormDem (D-CA) (National Unity): 456[/b]
Labor activist TNF (Socialist Alternative-IL) and Student activist Yelnoc (Democratic Socialists of America-GA) (Workers', Farmers', and Students' Alliance)Sad 82
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« Reply #465 on: December 04, 2014, 11:13:31 AM »



Governor R Pryor (R-NJ)/Senator OldiesFreak (R-MI): 397
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Senator Maria Cantwell (D-WA): 131
Representative TNF (S-IL)/Senator Tammy Baldwin (D-WI): 10

A socialist ticket comprised of firebrand Representative TNF and Senator Tammy Baldwin played spoiler for the Democratic party, leaving popular moderate Governor R Pryor and his running mate, Freshman Senator OldiesFreak, to swoop in for the victory.
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« Reply #466 on: December 04, 2014, 01:42:26 PM »

Ultimately 2014s losses led to the Democratic Party to nominate someone completely as far away from the Third Way as possible. Someone more economically populist who could cater to failing white vote, religious, while retaining minorities. This leads to the tapping of Governor Cuthbert "MormDem" Olson V of California

On the other end, the GOP nominate someone more progressive socially but a hard-liner on deficit hawkery. In the end, in the hopes of a 1964 rematch, they nominate Governor R. David Pryor of New Jersey.



Cuthbert "MormDem" Olson (D-CA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA): 322 EV, 52% PV
R. David Pryor (R-NJ)/Ron Johnson (R-WI): 216 EV, 48% PV

Ultimately, Morm Dem makes some in-roads in the South, but at the cost of more libertarian blue states such as New Hampshire,Maine, Colorado,Wisconsin or Oregon...but thanks to faith, he manages to make Utah the most competitive since LBJ won it in 1964.

The Northeast and Deep South remain as they are thanks to the VP picks that were more in-line with conventional platforms. For Olson,this meant the tapping of Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, for Pryor, this meant the tapping of Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin.

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« Reply #467 on: December 04, 2014, 07:31:18 PM »

Absolute Chaos: The 2016 Presidential Election



After intense primary fights for both parties, the more radical elements of the Democrats and Republicans both revolt. Tea Party Republicans are upset at Governor Bigby (R - GA) for his liberal views on social issues and foreign policy. As a result, Governor Mike Huckabee (R - AR) runs under a 3rd party naming themselves the "Conservative Party." Meanwhile, Senator MormDem (D - CA) wins a similar upset in the Democratic primary, but faces similar challenges from the far left in his party due to his socially conservative leanings and his religious affiliation. Senator Elizabeth Warren (D - MA) runs under the "Progressive Party" banner in response. On Election Day, both mainstream parties hold on surprisingly well, and even win in states they normally wouldn't due to the calamity of the election. However, no one achieves an electoral majority. Will MormDem or Bigby strike a deal together, or will someone reach out to Mike Huckabee first? Both chambers of Congress are Republicans, but many conservative Republicans have already pledged to not support Bigby, and several liberal Democrats have made the same vow against MormDem.

Governor Bigby (R - GA)/Congressman Justin Amash (R - MA): 255 EVs, 33.1% PV
Senator MormDem (R - CA)/Former Governor Bill Richardson (D - NM): 190 EVs, 34.2% PV
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R - AR)/Former Congressman Allen West (R - FL): 50 EVs, 18.5% PV
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D - MA)/Governor Jerry Brown (D - CA): 43 EVs, 13.9% PV
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« Reply #468 on: December 05, 2014, 04:45:24 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2014, 11:28:01 PM by Yelnoc »

US Presidential Election, 2044

Senator Bigby of Georgia is nominated by the Republican Party on the relatively libertarian platform which has become the party norm since the 2020s. He faces the Democratic Governor of Colorado, Yelnoc, who can also claim Georgia has his home state. Polling a year out suggests the race will be a close one, but a series of revelations relating Yelnoc's past politics, relationships, and drug use, contrasted to Bigby's "squeaky clean" record, serves to sink his candidacy.



Senator Bigby 54%
Governor Yelnoc 44%
Others 2%
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« Reply #469 on: December 05, 2014, 05:44:31 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2014, 06:03:40 PM by MormDem »

US Presidential Democratic Primary, 2016

A very close battle ala 2008 grips the Democrats as two prominen candidates battle on mostly similar reforms.

Both candidates have skeletons in the closet though.

In the case of Harrison "MormDem" Reed of California, it is his religion, which causes skepticism and fear among the Jewish, Atheist, Asian, and young voters as well. It does however bring back some alienated farmers, Evangelicals, and draw in some socially more conservative Hispanics and  black people who though skeptical are drawn in to the economic "big government approach" that is decidedly seen as more helpful to the plight of the poor than the Third Way. However his astounding lack of scandal and teetotalling record brings back an image not seen since 1976.

On the other side is Governor Dave Yelnoc of Georgia who runs a more traditional liberal platform, and his record of pot using,along with a more charismatic personality ends up taking most minorities,youth and roughly splitting up the black vote. His use of "accountable government" also manages to woo some conservative voters wary of a MormDems nearly straight up New Deal like platform which is seen as "handouts"



Ultimately it is a battle of rural vs urban, with Yelnoc managing to squeak by thanks to Leftist hatred of devout Christianity combined with Centrist hatred of strict regulation, and a general attitude against pot control.


But most humiliating is the loss of Alameda County, CA to the opponent.
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« Reply #470 on: December 05, 2014, 05:57:19 PM »



Governor Goldwater (R-NV) - 269 EVs
Senator MormDem (D-UT) - 269

Goldwater ends up winning the tied election because of the votes of the Republican controlled House.
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« Reply #471 on: December 05, 2014, 06:13:53 PM »

Switch Oregon, Washington, Virginia, Ohio, Montana, Utah, Missouri, and Michigan and you've got it.

Pretty sure you still win that one soundly.
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« Reply #472 on: December 05, 2014, 06:43:09 PM »

Switch Oregon, Washington, Virginia, Ohio, Montana, Utah, Missouri, and Michigan and you've got it.

Pretty sure you still win that one soundly.

Actually, you win 274-264



However, I don't see myself winning Michigan, and I've been under the impression that Montana was fairly libertarian*, so I don't see it being the first western state to flip to you. What about this?



292-246

*(by "libertarian" I mean less socially conservative than most Republican leaning states)
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« Reply #473 on: December 05, 2014, 06:54:15 PM »
« Edited: December 05, 2014, 06:59:29 PM by New Canadaland »

NCC 294 EVs
Goldwater 244EVs
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« Reply #474 on: December 05, 2014, 11:45:17 PM »
« Edited: December 06, 2014, 12:02:33 AM by MormDem »

@Goldwater: Okay okay, perhaps also flip New Jersey like this:



Which would mean, Goldwater 278 , MormDem 260

Montana elected Bullock and Schweitzer as Governors, the latter is at least kind of populist.

Anyway, against New Canadaland, I'm thinking, something like



MormDem (D-CA): 391 EV
New Canadaland (I-MN): 147 EV

Most of MormDem's losses are due to a faith-based phobia on the left, with a touch of want for a "more fiscally disciplined" government.
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