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« on: August 02, 2012, 12:54:56 pm »
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FoxConn Embargo & Creation of Import Labor Oversight Committee Bill

1) Embargo of all products manufactured at the plants where the suicides have occurred.
2) Creation of import oversight committee that would make recommendations to the Senate and the President to enact legislation to protect workers across the world.
3) Secretary position in the game which will give the recommendations of #2.

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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 12:58:01 pm »
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Seatown, you only have a "short time" to advocate for this (24 hours).


Sounds almost terminal doesn't it? I guarrantee it will be for the bill if you don't comply.
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 10:10:30 pm »
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides
Pretty simple really, there is long history of Foxconn worker abuse of unimaginable scale, so the least we could do is not support it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 10:14:15 pm »
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FoxConn Embargo & Creation of Import Labor Oversight Committee Bill

1) Embargo of all products manufactured at the plants where the suicides have occurred.
2) Creation of import oversight committee that would make recommendations to the Senate and the President to enact legislation to protect workers across the world.
3) GM, SoEA, and SoIA in the game will give the recommendations of action for the game(to fulfill #2)

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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 10:15:03 pm »
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Foxconn's suicide rate per the size of its labor force is actually lower than the general population.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2012, 10:22:39 pm »
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Foxconn's suicide rate per the size of its labor force is actually lower than the general population.
Apples to oranges. What's the general population's suicide rate while working?
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2012, 10:24:18 pm »
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Foxconn's suicide rate per the size of its labor force is actually lower than the general population.
Apples to oranges. What's the general population's suicide rate while working?

So you're saying Foxconn saved workers' lives by offering them jobs?

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/foremski/media-gets-its-facts-wrong-working-at-foxconn-significantly-cuts-suicide-risk/1356
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2012, 10:24:29 pm »
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I'm going to need some convincing on this.  I also need to hear from the SoEA and the GM on the geopolitical/economic impact of this bill; I'm currently leaning against it.
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2012, 11:03:39 pm »
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I echo Senator Ben's requests.  I am also going to have to be convinced on this.
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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 10:03:09 am »
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I concur with Ben and Scott thus far.

An emphasis on fair trade is important to me. Nonetheless, without an overview of what kind of impact this would have on people living and working in the places in question, I am quite reluctant to impose my moral worldview at the risk of diminishing the living conditions of the very people I would like to assist. Singling out FoxConn is also a little awkward from my perspective. Would it not be an even better idea to embargo all groups that are found to violate a certain set of standards concerning labor rights?

On the other hand, the committee you are proposing sounds like a great idea to me. Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2012, 10:46:51 am »
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I have always been very suspect of Populist causes, because typically they lead to people doing stuff out of emotional anger, which may not advance their cause. In the worst case they are self-defeating and counterproductive.

We must be carefull when engaging in a politically correct crusade to protect the poor, unfortunate people of the third world from sweat shops, that we don't get what we want to the extent that we drive them into the grave from starvation.

I thus add my name to the now fantastic four of Senators who need to be convinced. Tongue
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2012, 10:48:39 am »
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Quote from: Amendment 50:22 by Seatown
FoxConn Embargo & Creation of Import Labor Oversight Committee Bill

1) Embargo of all products manufactured at the plants where the suicides have occurred.
2) Creation of import oversight committee that would make recommendations to the Senate and the President to enact legislation to protect workers across the world.
3) GM, SoEA, and SoIA in the game will give the recommendations of action for the game(to fulfill #2)

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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2012, 01:55:58 am »
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So how about we just create a foreign labor relations department then?
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2012, 02:20:39 am »
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So how about we just create a foreign labor relations department then?

Don't we already have the SoEA to deal with foreign labor relations, technically?
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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2012, 03:20:25 pm »
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Does the sponsor have a response to the Senator?


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« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2012, 01:29:24 am »
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So how about we just create a foreign labor relations department then?

Don't we already have the SoEA to deal with foreign labor relations, technically?
Well do we have any funding for the IRL part, so creation of said department, and are there any examples of SoEA actually  dealing with foreign labor relations?
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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2012, 01:32:50 am »
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So how about we just create a foreign labor relations department then?

Don't we already have the SoEA to deal with foreign labor relations, technically?
Well do we have any funding for the IRL part, so creation of said department, and are there any examples of SoEA actually  dealing with foreign labor relations?

I don't believe so, but that could become a priority of of the SoEA.  Formally assigning that duty is probably a more ideal way to approach this issue.
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« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2012, 07:38:00 pm »
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Missed this somehow with the addition of another page of posts.

The amendment has passed.
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2012, 05:52:09 pm »
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What is next on this?
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2012, 01:01:40 am »
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What is next on this?
I'm going to amend it this and call a final vote

Bill reads as following following amendment:

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FoxConn Embargo & Creation of Imports Labor Oversight Committee Bill

1) Embargo of all products manufactured at the plants where the suicides have occurred.
1) Creation of import oversight committee that would make recommendations to the Senate and the President to enact legislation to protect workers across the world. Funding $10 million per year.
2) GM, SoEA, and SoIA in the game will give the recommendations of action for the game to report the committee's findings.
3) Investigation of FoxConn plants.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 10:04:31 am »
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How will Atlasians get their iPad's and iPhones if this crazy bill passes? Can you imagine the damage it would do to one of Atlasia's most successful companies? Suicide is awful but frankly it happens. We may as well ban all goods coming from Asia.
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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2012, 10:30:23 am »
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I strongly support the amendment proposed and now intend to cast a vote in the affirmative.
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2012, 07:16:48 pm »
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Quote from: Amendment 50:27 by Seatown
FoxConn Embargo & Creation of Imports Labor Oversight Committee Bill

1) Embargo of all products manufactured at the plants where the suicides have occurred.
1) Creation of import oversight committee that would make recommendations to the Senate and the President to enact legislation to protect workers across the world. Funding $10 million per year.
2) GM, SoEA, and SoIA in the game will give the recommendations of action for the game to report the committee's findings.
3) Investigation of FoxConn plants.

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« Reply #23 on: August 16, 2012, 07:39:23 pm »
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Amendment passed.
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2012, 12:36:39 am »
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Go to a final vote if nobody objects?
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