Office of Fmr. Governor Simfan34

[Simfan34]

As far as this country is concerned, I am a liberal.

[Simfan34]

I will be making an endorsement in the Presidential and Pacific Senate races soon.

[Simfan34]

I am surprised by the support that Federalists appear to be giving DemPGH. Do they know something (particularly regarding his ability to stand up to his own party) I do not?

[tmthforu94]

I am surprised by the support that Federalists appear to be giving DemPGH. Do they know something (particularly regarding his ability to stand up to his own party) I do not?

Well if it clears things up, I consider both DemPGH and Windjammer to be friends and I think they would do well. Granted, I have been a bit out of the loop, but I don't like the thought of the "anti-Labor" faction forming a ticket without a Federalist, then expecting us all to just fall in line behind them since they aren't Labor. I've messaged some Federalists asking them to consider voting for DemPGH.

[Cincinnatus]

I am surprised by the support that Federalists appear to be giving DemPGH. Do they know something (particularly regarding his ability to stand up to his own party) I do not?

Well if it clears things up, I consider both DemPGH and Windjammer to be friends and I think they would do well. Granted, I have been a bit out of the loop, but I don't like the thought of the "anti-Labor" faction forming a ticket without a Federalist, then expecting us all to just fall in line behind them since they aren't Labor. I've messaged some Federalists asking them to consider voting for DemPGH.

Noone expects anyone to fall in line.  Just interesting that the Feds are choosing to elect a Labor President, giving Labor a majority.  Not very strategic, but than the right very rarely is, except for a select few that do their best.

[CatoMinor]

but I don't like the thought of the "anti-Labor" faction forming a ticket without a Federalist, then expecting us all to just fall in line behind them since they aren't Labor. I've messaged some Federalists asking them to consider voting for DemPGH.

Soooo it makes more sense for the feds to vote for a ticket they have less views in common with? A ticket can only have between 0 and 2 parties, and the Federalists just happen to not be one of them this time. Where is the Fed candidate on the Labor ticket? (Or better yet the platform planks in their party that make voting for them make sense from a center right perspective?)


Also, when you say "without a Federalist" does the Federalist Party endorsement not mean anything? (I am pretty certain Sirnick/Dallas won that, feel free to correct if wrong.)

[tmthforu94]

but I don't like the thought of the "anti-Labor" faction forming a ticket without a Federalist, then expecting us all to just fall in line behind them since they aren't Labor. I've messaged some Federalists asking them to consider voting for DemPGH.

Soooo it makes more sense for the feds to vote for a ticket they have less views in common with? A ticket can only have between 0 and 2 parties, and the Federalists just happen to not be one of them this time. Where is the Fed candidate on the Labor ticket? (Or better yet the platform planks in their party that make voting for them make sense from a center right perspective?)


Also, when you say "without a Federalist" does the Federalist Party endorsement not mean anything? (I am pretty certain Sirnick/Dallas won that, feel free to correct if wrong.)

The Federalist Party is the largest party in Atlasia and is double the size of the TPP and D-Rs combined. Maybe just offer the VP spot, but it doesn't seem like smart political strategy to ignore 2/3's of the "anti-Labor faction." It was an oversight on the part of Federalist Leadership to just accept that - we should have ran our own ticket if anything.

[Simfan34]

I simply didn't know that Federalists wanted someone who would probably sign in favor of large tax increases, nationalisations, polygamy, and pretty much everything conservatives hate.

I'll say it again, this time without the circumlocution: as far as I am concerned, every Labor elected official, unless proven otherwise, is simply another TNF, seeing as they seem to show little resistance to his proposals.

I'm not passing judgement on that either way (not that my position is unclear), but it strikes me as odd that Federalists seem to feel fine supporting Labor candidates in light of that fact.

[sentinel]

Are you supporting me or DemPGH Simfan?

[Simfan34]

I honestly don't know.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Should I just suspend the election?

[Simfan34]

Only if we get to wear spiffy military uniforms during the announcement!

[Cincinnatus]

Should I just suspend the election?

I think it would solve a lot of problems, don't you?

[President Tyrion]

Is no one concerned that the GM is making political statements and endorsements in the first place?

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Is no one concerned that the GM is making political statements and endorsements in the first place?

No, that ship sailed when Griffin became GM while Labor chair

[President Tyrion]

Is no one concerned that the GM is making political statements and endorsements in the first place?

No, that ship sailed when Griffin became GM while Labor chair

My understanding is that Griffin totally changed his behavior as GM, though.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Should I just suspend the election?

I think it would solve a lot of problems, don't you?

I think it's clear that most people either are incapable of making the right choice or that the outcome will upset some people, so why not? It solves all the issues we've had recently.

[Simfan34]

The idea my political opinions would have somehow disappeared magically upon my assuming office would have convinced no-one, so I don't see the point of keeping up some charade about it. If someone were to challenge a "declaration" of mine, I'd be sure to support it with facts. If we want to talk political use of office, we can talk about that, but I doubt that's a route you want to go down, yes?

Should I just suspend the election?

I think it would solve a lot of problems, don't you?

I think it's clear that most people either are incapable of making the right choice or that the outcome will upset some people, so why not? It solves all the issues we've had recently.

That's my Duke! Now, we need the Functional Constituencies Act of 2014.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Is no one concerned that the GM is making political statements and endorsements in the first place?

No, that ship sailed when Griffin became GM while Labor chair

My understanding is that Griffin totally changed his behavior as GM, though.

Yeah, I'm just saying

[President Tyrion]

The idea my political opinions would have somehow disappeared magically upon my assuming office would have convinced no-one, so I don't see the point of keeping up some charade about it. If someone were to challenge a "declaration" of mine, I'd be sure to support it with facts. If we want to talk political use of office, we can talk about that, but I doubt that's a route you want to go down, yes?

I mean, I'd gladly go down that road if I had reason to, but I'll agree that no one wants to do that.

But it's one thing to expect your political opinions to disappear, but it's another thing entirely to be bassooning them from a hilltop.

[Simfan34]

The idea my political opinions would have somehow disappeared magically upon my assuming office would have convinced no-one, so I don't see the point of keeping up some charade about it. If someone were to challenge a "declaration" of mine, I'd be sure to support it with facts. If we want to talk political use of office, we can talk about that, but I doubt that's a route you want to go down, yes?

I mean, I'd gladly go down that road if I had reason to, but I'll agree that no one wants to do that.

But it's one thing to expect your political opinions to disappear, but it's another thing entirely to be bassooning them from a hilltop.

Well yes. I have different offices. From one office I carry out my duties as GM, and from another I spew right-wing bile.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I simply didn't know that Federalists wanted someone who would probably sign in favor of large tax increases, nationalisations, polygamy, and pretty much everything conservatives hate.

I'll say it again, this time without the circumlocution: as far as I am concerned, every Labor elected official, unless proven otherwise, is simply another TNF, seeing as they seem to show little resistance to his proposals.

I'm not passing judgement on that either way (not that my position is unclear), but it strikes me as odd that Federalists seem to feel fine supporting Labor candidates in light of that fact.

Labor officials do not in fact march in lock step with TNF, but I think it can be said that unless Deus defeats Bore, a DemPGH victory would stand to be the death knell to the center-right/left balance we've had under Duke/Cincy and conservatives will have a very hard time getting anything passed, or blocking much of anything from passing.

[President Tyrion]

The idea my political opinions would have somehow disappeared magically upon my assuming office would have convinced no-one, so I don't see the point of keeping up some charade about it. If someone were to challenge a "declaration" of mine, I'd be sure to support it with facts. If we want to talk political use of office, we can talk about that, but I doubt that's a route you want to go down, yes?

I mean, I'd gladly go down that road if I had reason to, but I'll agree that no one wants to do that.

But it's one thing to expect your political opinions to disappear, but it's another thing entirely to be bassooning them from a hilltop.

Well yes. I have different offices. From one office I carry out my duties as GM, and from another I spew right-wing bile.

To be honest, I'm not all that concerned with any of this. You do have a right to your opinions, and I'm not going to take that away from you. If all you do is endorse candidates and whatnot, that's fine with me. But, like with any GM, I worry that things will become political, since you do control what "happens", in a sense.

But hey, you haven't done anything overtly political in that office yet. I just like to keep things in the open. When I noticed you making political statements, I only wanted to make sure that you're not up to no good.

Well, I'm sure you're up to no good, what with all the "right wing bile", but more "no good" than usual, anyway....

[sentinel]

I simply didn't know that Federalists wanted someone who would probably sign in favor of large tax increases, nationalisations, polygamy, and pretty much everything conservatives hate.

I'll say it again, this time without the circumlocution: as far as I am concerned, every Labor elected official, unless proven otherwise, is simply another TNF, seeing as they seem to show little resistance to his proposals.

I'm not passing judgement on that either way (not that my position is unclear), but it strikes me as odd that Federalists seem to feel fine supporting Labor candidates in light of that fact.

Labor officials do not in fact march in lock step with TNF, but I think it can be said that unless Deus defeats Bore, a DemPGH victory would stand to be the death knell to the center-right/left balance we've had under Duke/Cincy and conservatives will have a very hard time getting anything passed, or blocking much of anything from passing.

What Shua said.

[Simfan34]

You are building this coalition by appointing someone who supported TNF over a Federalist? Acting like one can accomplish "social goals" is a fools errand, as I said, we can always invent some new social issue. Right now the D-Rs are pretty much just a social liberal party, I don't see much fiscal conservatism being effected from them.

Indeed, I have more faith right now that Windjammer as the Senate's tie breaker would be more socially conservative than the guy- good guy he is- who gave the NE polygamy and child pornography.

You're not going to get all the people under this tent to agree on everything. But you need to cast it as widely as possible. Now you have me thinking I should join the Feds, if they appoint me their chairman. After all, I did found the Whig Party...

Oh come on, its easy to pile on sirnick now that he is getting creamed but lets not act like simfan isn't a right wing federalist who has played a big part in spreading petty attacks against the left. He's closer to a Riley than a sirnick.